Air Cadets grounded?
Well I flew solo in a Vigilant back in errr 97 I think?
Do you mean post the grounding? Cadets are flying inboth powered and unpowered gliders now. The throughput is another matter, but it is happening.
Do you mean post the grounding? Cadets are flying in
Last edited by unmanned_droid; 14th May 2023 at 23:48.
I don't think so; all the Vigilants have been given away by MOD.
615 VGS at Kenley are certainly back in business and also sending Cadets solo. I think 626 down west suffer from staffing and operate with help from CGS.
All youth based organisations are suffering from a lack of adult staff, and also needing a level of training/experience to give flying instruction makes it a difficult system to maintain. The Vikings have a finite life so a replacement program will be required soon.
All youth based organisations are suffering from a lack of adult staff, and also needing a level of training/experience to give flying instruction makes it a difficult system to maintain. The Vikings have a finite life so a replacement program will be required soon.
After filling in forms and waiting for several months for clearance he gave up. He now has a part time job in a garden centre instead. I wonder how many others just give up after waiting months for the safeguarding checks? Perhaps if the system was quicker and simpler there might be more people willing to help out.
Yet there's a large 'hole' in VGS placement which could be adequately filled by Halton and Henlow (better not mention Wethersfield) but which the RAF choose not to use; there were always plenty of staff volunteers at both these airfields.
Halton is still well used by the RAFGSA and the powered and miclolight clubs but Henlow is emply of traffic although I see from satellite photos that the grass is kept well mown.
So how many VGS are operating or working towards it?
611 RAF Honington (Working up)
614 MDP Wethersfield (Not operating at the moment)
615 RAF Kenley
621 MOD Little Rissington
622 Army Upavon
626 RNAS Predannack
631 RAF Woodvale (Possibly not operating)
632 RAF Ternhill (Possibly not operating)
637 MOD Little Rissington
644 RAF Syerston (co located with CGS)
645 RAF Topcliffe
661 RAF Kirknewton
NB: Please feel free to update this list if you have better knowledge.
This all shows vast 'holes' in the catchment areas for several parts of the UK especially Wales and Northern Ireland.
Last edited by chevvron; 15th May 2023 at 19:15.
Thank you; list amended.
So apart from Kenley, there is no Air Cadet gliding in the most densely populated part of the country, the south east; Odiham, Abingdon, Halton, Henlow, Tangmere, Manston and probably Wethersfield and from Little Rissington to Honington there is a huge gap.
As Wing Gliding Liaison Officer (WGLO) I used to 'feed' cadets from my 29 Squadrons to courses at 612 Abingdon, 613 Halfon and 616 Henlow so I wonder where the cadets from my wing alone (Herts and Bucks Wing) go for air experience gliding nowadays let alone for weekend courses.
So apart from Kenley, there is no Air Cadet gliding in the most densely populated part of the country, the south east; Odiham, Abingdon, Halton, Henlow, Tangmere, Manston and probably Wethersfield and from Little Rissington to Honington there is a huge gap.
As Wing Gliding Liaison Officer (WGLO) I used to 'feed' cadets from my 29 Squadrons to courses at 612 Abingdon, 613 Halfon and 616 Henlow so I wonder where the cadets from my wing alone (Herts and Bucks Wing) go for air experience gliding nowadays let alone for weekend courses.
Last edited by chevvron; 15th May 2023 at 12:22.
....just to correct your correction...
Its no longer 'RAF' Upavon as the RAF left in 1993 and the Army then moved in and renamed it Trenchard lines ..... but still commmonly referred to as '622 - Upavon'
I guess 622 Trenchard lines would be correct, but then most people would immediately ask ...where?
Its no longer 'RAF' Upavon as the RAF left in 1993 and the Army then moved in and renamed it Trenchard lines ..... but still commmonly referred to as '622 - Upavon'
I guess 622 Trenchard lines would be correct, but then most people would immediately ask ...where?
....just to correct your correction...
Its no longer 'RAF' Upavon as the RAF left in 1993 and the Army then moved in and renamed it Trenchard lines ..... but still commmonly referred to as '622 - Upavon'
I guess 622 Trenchard lines would be correct, but then most people would immediately ask ...where?
Its no longer 'RAF' Upavon as the RAF left in 1993 and the Army then moved in and renamed it Trenchard lines ..... but still commmonly referred to as '622 - Upavon'
I guess 622 Trenchard lines would be correct, but then most people would immediately ask ...where?
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Interesting to see 615VGS at Kenley are flying midweek, they have been busy both yesterday and today (definitely Vikings and not Surrey Hills GC's gliders...) Presume some kind of half term camp? I recall they used to fly Wednesday evenings in the summer...
Years ago ('60s) at Halton and Bovingdon we would fly evenings tue/wed/thu during the light summer evenings.
I can remember launching from Halton in a Sedbergh (solo) as it was starting to get dark about 9.30 pm. I got about 1500ft off the launch then floated around in still air for about 10 minutes until the time came for me to return however as I descended and turned final, I found it had got so dark (out in the countryside and no surrounding street lights etc) I couldn't see the surface in order to judge my height properly so I shut the spoilers and simply 'felt' for the ground until the wheel touched down.
Then came the problem of the retrieve crew finding me somewhere in the middle of an unlit grass airfield at night!!
Last edited by chevvron; 1st Jun 2023 at 15:23.
611 VGS used to run continuous courses at Easter, Whitsun and over the August Bank Holiday. I assume other VGS did the same...
Also depended on how many staff you could muster; don't forget they were all volunteer part timers who had weekday jobs too.
(Best unpaid part time job you could ever have)
