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Air Cadets grounded?

Old 19th Dec 2016, 21:50
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It's my understanding that the tech inspection doesn't apply to the Grob 109b...
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 22:52
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Anyone got any idea of what this "imminent 5th MFTS base decision" is all about?
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 23:58
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The jungle drums tell me that Linton may stay open after all. Not heard anything more than rumour though. So that should be Valley, Shawbury, Cranwell, Wittering and now Linton?
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 00:39
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That sounds reasonable, I assume that Barkston Heath is counted as a part of Cranwell and not as an additional site?
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 09:45
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I love how the Comdt 2FTS hopes the VGS community 'finds time to have some down time before we face the challenges 2017 may bring'.

I think 2 years and 8 months - and still rising - is enough 'down time' already!
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 09:53
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A lot of the former VGS staff have already seen the light and found other things to fill their time ! Added to which a lot just cannot be bothered to re-cat including ALL ground exams, and Vigilant min of 17 hrs - god knows how many launches for Viking, thus the "pause" of 2 yrs 8 mths has caused a huge loss already. Add to that things like restrictions on hours per Vigilant A/C per month which cannot be exceeded and where if below max, no credit allowed over the minimum in following month unless authorised...........................and of course the eventual total demise of the Vigilant when time expired, as the original concept of engine refit and glass cockpit has been binned due to the costs of the present farce.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:07
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It would be interesting to know what the VGS Headcount was before the pause and what it is currently (including by Grade/Category). That would give an idea of how viable it will be to grow the organization back.


Of course there is no way that this information will be forthcoming..............

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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:17
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Sky sports - yes absolutely, maybe the real down time is the drifting away ( numbers down) of experienced VGS staff who will not be easily replaced !
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:31
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Coming soon......an alternative to Air Cadets that is more Air than Cadets
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:43
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is the drifting away ( numbers down) of experienced VGS staff who will not be easily replaced
They may have drifted away initially but I understand that many will have marched away when they have observed how their non volunteer, highly paid "leaders" have handled this farce.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 10:55
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I think you'll find they 'doubled away'

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Old 20th Dec 2016, 11:08
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Quote:

I am told Gliders are now ready to fly from a technical point of view and the final paperwork issues are now being delt with before release for test flight.

Unquote:

Can we start a sweepstake on how long the 'final paperwork issues' will take to sort out, and at what cost.

I'll start with 1 year and 1M!
I posted this 17 months ago. I'm claiming the sweepstake prize!
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 11:19
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Originally Posted by The Spirit of Goole View Post
Coming soon......an alternative to Air Cadets that is more Air than Cadets
You didn't specify whether the AIR was hot ?
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 11:49
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You can see the meeting now.................'You didn't actually say you wanted to fly them again.......'

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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 10:52
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End of year 3 - and the start of year 4, - and where are we now ?

Happy New Year to all our readers except any AIR Cadets, who, for another good while yet, may need to be GROUND Cadets.


Not long to go now to the 3rd anniversary of the famous " pause" - the longest pause in history, and where are we now ?


We did have some Vigilant A/C airborne in one location but now they're grounded with an engine issue, and we have one day a weekend Viking ops at Syerston. If they get a wriggle on, they may even get the Vigilant A/C sorted just in time to do the flypast to mark their withdrawal in 2019/20 !!


Staff continue to drift away, and many huge issues to resolve, not to mention re-training, working out how to fill the jobs that FSC's may not be allowed to do etc, but hey, they can play on a PTT !!


And of course with the contract for the sale of 28 Tutor's and slow progress on staff convex there, (plus of course the fact that the Tutor's history is not outstanding !), there's little chance that getting bottoms off the ground in huge numbers is a hope rather than a planned fact, not to mention the proposal to establish more AEF Units.


As a management audit, it doesn't look like the master plan is going to be a winner - in fact with /$ exchange and pressure on Defence spending, I wonder when the Minister will call "time" ? Although being positive we could maybe use some of the new accommodation blocks for Cadet camps, - that is if their location doesn't close down before they can be used.


Only thing missing really was a few Gongs in the Honours list !
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 11:22
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Just out of interest, what have the full time instructors at Syerston been doing over the last 2 years plus?
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 11:41
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Only thing missing really was a few Gongs in the Honours list !
I think if you look closely.......
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 12:37
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I think if you look closely.......
Really ? I must have missed it ! Any clues ?
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 12:40
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Originally Posted by pb643 View Post
Just out of interest, what have the full time instructors at Syerston been doing over the last 2 years plus?
Planning re-cat training - like massive no of hours required plus re doing all exams, thinking of new procedures and restrictions, doing some keep current flying on borrowed aircraft, - beyond that, don't know unless anyone has any firm ideas..............not exactly a career with longevity in mind or a gold watch at the end.
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 13:41
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PM sent. An Air Vice Marshal. I won't name him here, as I'm sure he's been raising merry hell...
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