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Russia beating up USA warship

Old 14th Apr 2014, 15:46
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Russia beating up USA warship

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Makes a change to us doing it to them.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 16:01
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I recall talking to a Danish F104 pilot who did approaches and low go arounds on the Minsk.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 16:21
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Big guys playing big toys, suppose military people from both sides enjoy this game
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 16:34
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"It's ok, he fires one, I fire one"

One away sir!

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Old 14th Apr 2014, 17:10
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Emel, I take it you're being light-hearted, but I would say that Russia appears to be coming very close to taking this beyond a "game".
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 17:21
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How far away?

1,000 yards and 500 ft! - That's well within the guidelines used by a shrinking airforce near you which used to fly Maritime Patrol aircraft.

To be fair I do have photos of RAF Jaguars significantly closer to Soviet Navy ships - back in the days when Kriegsmarine Starfighters would overfly the Baltic Sea AGI at Mach 1.

And ... among others, photos of Soviet Navy May's lifting their wings to avoid the masts of Royal Navy Frigates.

Yes this sort of thing does go on ...

Let's just hope we don't have another case of 'AGEIS Arrogance' and the jolly yankee sailors just enjoy the show.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 17:43
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Courtney Mil, we have a VERY different view on the latest events, and I wouldn't like to get into a long and useless discussion, but what I really see is Russia and US trying to show their muscles. US warship in Black Sea, what's that??? Why no russian warships near US border? Nevertheless, being somehow distant from military subjects, I do really consider this a kind of a show. Hope there are some clever people to prevent further escalation.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 17:48
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Why no russian warships near US border?
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 18:54
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US warship in Black Sea, what's that???
Nothing new in US Navy vessels in the Black Sea. It is freedom of navigation. Romania and Bulgaria and Turkey are also NATO members and the US Navy regularly conduct exercises and drills in the Black Sea. US Navy also exercise and make port visits to Ukraine and Georgia.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=75504

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http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=60839
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 18:58
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Its gone on for 50 years. The secret is not to take it too far. Remember 1962?

I may have been guilty in the past.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 19:06
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Is it a just continuation of the 'Ferret' system to check the radio and radar capabilities of the 'target'?
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 19:07
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My BIL was helping drive the Vulcan passing the Kiev (?) with the assorted chaff/flares going off. I think there's a colour copy of that in his Study
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 19:21
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Nothing new in US Navy vessels in the Black Sea. It is freedom of navigation. Romania and Bulgaria and Turkey are also NATO members and the US Navy regularly conduct exercises and drills in the Black Sea.
Yes, and that's the point! A little bit disturbing to have such activity near your border, isn't it? Especially these days.


Its gone on for 50 years. The secret is not to take it too far.
Exactly!
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 20:10
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Glad Rag -
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Book 'em Danno ! LFH
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 21:01
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I remember meeting a P3 and a Nimrod in my Triangle over the Med one fine day, and treating the Kiev with some others to an assortment of flypasts. Never seen any pictures.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 21:42
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US warship in Black Sea, what's that??? Why no russian warships near US border?
The Russians like to think the Black sea belongs to them, regardless of the the law. Thats why they make this big build up of American forces bullsh!t they are playing at home.

[email protected] how far have the Russian Navy and Airforce fallen if they regard one p!ss ant destroyer as a huge build up.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 22:42
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Of course, we never used to beat up Sov ships, did we?

500 foot?? I realise this is US low level, but it's more likely to generate derision than annoyance
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 23:18
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The Russians like to think the Black sea belongs to them, regardless of the the law. Thats why they make this big build up of American forces bullsh!t they are playing at home.
Well, Americans like to think the whole world belongs to them, regardless of the law. That's why they start this bullsh!t.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 23:39
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That's why they start this bullsh!t.
Interested to see a description of how America started the invasion of Crimea. Anyway, it depends whether you define bullsh!t as:

a) Sailing a solitary, unsupported warship in international waters

b) Fomenting unrest in a neighbouring state on the basis of unsubstantiated (and almost certainly false) threats of ethnic cleansing as a pretext to proxy invasion using suspiciously well-equipped and uniformly-dressed local 'militias', while repeating the story on national media until even Putin himself believes it!

No sign yet of any Russian-marked vehicles in eastern Ukraine. Anyone care to speculate on the fate of the commander whose unit omitted to delete their markings before going onto the streets of Crimea?
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 00:17
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Anyone care to speculate on the fate of the commander whose unit omitted to delete their markings before going onto the streets of Crimea?
I think theres most likely not to much media attention in Siberia.
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