China's PLA to operate under ADF...seriously?
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China's PLA to operate under ADF...seriously?
China to take our orders in war games
Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? I'd love to know what Washington has to say about any use of US military technology in this.
Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? I'd love to know what Washington has to say about any use of US military technology in this.
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It raised my eyebrows but, it says the "humanitarian rescue components"
of the exercise.
Now Aus (ADF) and China have conducted an exercise together before - in China - to do with SAR and emergency responses etc etc. And then you have the current warm and fuzzies going on in Perth / RAAF Pearce with Australian Aircrew (pilot) on board the Chinese aircraft and taking orders from Aus.
A RAN Ship also did an exercise with Chinese Navy ships about a year ago.
So, IF they were to be commanded by anyone, it wouldn't surprise me if
they preferred to work with Australia than anyone else.
It wouldn't be Japan so who else does that leave that they respect AND
don't have a current on going dispute with ?
of the exercise.
Now Aus (ADF) and China have conducted an exercise together before - in China - to do with SAR and emergency responses etc etc. And then you have the current warm and fuzzies going on in Perth / RAAF Pearce with Australian Aircrew (pilot) on board the Chinese aircraft and taking orders from Aus.
A RAN Ship also did an exercise with Chinese Navy ships about a year ago.
So, IF they were to be commanded by anyone, it wouldn't surprise me if
they preferred to work with Australia than anyone else.
It wouldn't be Japan so who else does that leave that they respect AND
don't have a current on going dispute with ?
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The RAAF monitored the Chinese Navy Ships that went through the straits early this year. It's not like the Chinese don't know we watch and listen to the exercises they conduct.
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TBM -Legend said:
Nope, he actually said " Know yourself and know your enemy and you will always be victorious."
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Your point is still well made matey.
Sun.
Sun Tsu says stay close to your friends and closer to your enemies
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Your point is still well made matey.
Sun.
Sun Tsu says stay close to your friends and closer to your enemies!
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
But your point is made. 
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There's no military component in the exercise, the media has used "war-games" in the title, as a classic misleading, news-selling cliche.
It's in everyones interest to ensure that processes, commands and information dissemination techniques are standardised - or each chain of commands SOP's are understood, so that they can work together more effectively in joint SAR operations.
I'll wager a lot is being learnt already, from both the Chinese and the Australians sides, in the current SAR operation for MH370.
No-one is about to share their deepest defence secrets with another country, despite what the media tries to make out. And the bottom line is - vast amounts are already known about other nations capabilities, it's just the latest cutting-edge technology and its operational limits, is where the fuzziness begins.
It's in everyones interest to ensure that processes, commands and information dissemination techniques are standardised - or each chain of commands SOP's are understood, so that they can work together more effectively in joint SAR operations.
I'll wager a lot is being learnt already, from both the Chinese and the Australians sides, in the current SAR operation for MH370.
No-one is about to share their deepest defence secrets with another country, despite what the media tries to make out. And the bottom line is - vast amounts are already known about other nations capabilities, it's just the latest cutting-edge technology and its operational limits, is where the fuzziness begins.
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The Naval arm of the PLA seems to have adopted USN carrier deck ops as a standard without ever participating in a "war game"
probably sat up all night reading all the bumf produced by teh PR dept in Washington and watching "Top Gun"
probably sat up all night reading all the bumf produced by teh PR dept in Washington and watching "Top Gun"
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So, the Chinese ship that got the aircraft locator beacon hits was outside the 'designated' search area. Could the Chinese possibly have a more accurate datum to search? Just good luck that they got the hits the day before the guaranteed battery life ended? I wondered after week 1, how the major powers would narrow the search down to a smaller area, without giving away capabilities. OTHR anybody?
Don't watch all of it, Sun is correct, it's boring.
Don't watch all of it, Sun is correct, it's boring.
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Could the Chinese possibly have a more accurate datum to search? Just good luck that they got the hits the day before the guaranteed battery life ended?
The Chinese are gung-ho, they're not about to sit around and wait for someone else in the Western world, to give them the figures and calculations.
Don't forget there's probably around 5M Chinese who have been educated to high technical levels in Western countries.
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You ain't an ESM operator then? They love that sort of thing!
Interesting to someone though I s'pose. 
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