Aerospace battle what?
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and can write backwards in chinagraph on tote boards while standing on tiptoe.....
Now look at what's happened
Now look at what's happened
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"Are they still nice young things you would like to take in the bar on a Friday night?"
I hope that was meant to be "take TO the bar"
I hope that was meant to be "take TO the bar"
Hmmm.
The usual rule was that those who drove the progress and knew the implications, would inevitably be subsumed in recognition by the name changers and self-publicists.
The usual rule was that those who drove the progress and knew the implications, would inevitably be subsumed in recognition by the name changers and self-publicists.
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I thought it was a name for failed Air Traffic Controllers.
Isn't that the Flight Ops Branch?
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To Coin a Cliche
Resistance is futile.
Whilst ATC has been rooted in its airfield centric history and Ops Spt going nowhere fast..............................................ABM has well it's obvious really, become Battle Managers in a world of technology - it's not just all about banging fighter v fighter although that might have been fun - no matter how much you might disagree. It's too late whahhhhhhhaaa
Whilst ATC has been rooted in its airfield centric history and Ops Spt going nowhere fast..............................................ABM has well it's obvious really, become Battle Managers in a world of technology - it's not just all about banging fighter v fighter although that might have been fun - no matter how much you might disagree. It's too late whahhhhhhhaaa
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I suppose we should be used to the scopies changing their names, after all they’ve gone from GD(G)FC to Ops Spt FC to ASACS to ABM. Aerospace Battle Management is certainly an interesting title and presumably is aimed at attracting recruits, rather than the specialisation having to put up with individuals who didn’t really understand what they were being shoehorned into during selection at Cranwell, or those who’ve failed courses elsewhere.
I think the old ASACS bosses played it quite cleverly when the Cold war ended and they realised their specialised role would rapidly shrink and so shifted their emphasis to Battlespace Management and have re-titled themselves accordingly.
Of course yet another change is just on the horizon, as yet another study is underway to merge ABM with ATC or ATM as it is now titled. When the study is complete, I imagine the eventual fallout will be the closure of Boulmer and the move of the School of Aerospace Battle Management (SABM) to combine with CATCS to form a new combined training unit within 22Gp at RAF Shawbury, provided the money can be found from somewhere. Perhaps we chould have some suggestions for the title of a combined school and the merged specialisations?
SCABM - School of Control and Battlespace Management and ATBM are my suggestions - haven't got time to think oif anything more amusing!
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I think the old ASACS bosses played it quite cleverly when the Cold war ended and they realised their specialised role would rapidly shrink and so shifted their emphasis to Battlespace Management and have re-titled themselves accordingly.
Of course yet another change is just on the horizon, as yet another study is underway to merge ABM with ATC or ATM as it is now titled. When the study is complete, I imagine the eventual fallout will be the closure of Boulmer and the move of the School of Aerospace Battle Management (SABM) to combine with CATCS to form a new combined training unit within 22Gp at RAF Shawbury, provided the money can be found from somewhere. Perhaps we chould have some suggestions for the title of a combined school and the merged specialisations?
SCABM - School of Control and Battlespace Management and ATBM are my suggestions - haven't got time to think oif anything more amusing!
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Do they really mean "aerospace", or "airspace"?
As for the newspaper ads trying to attract people into these areas, I thnk the slogan was "Supersonic battle of (t)wits".
Mister B
As for the newspaper ads trying to attract people into these areas, I thnk the slogan was "Supersonic battle of (t)wits".
Mister B
I see in today's Torygraph (or at least the on line version) there's a list of Cranwell graduations including 'No 8 Commissioned Warrant Officers' Course'
What's that all about ?
What's that all about ?
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Warrant Officers and MACR have for a few years now under certain circumstances been eligible do a short (2 weeks IIRC) Commissioning Course.
Quite understandably (IMHO) we have now come into line with t'Army and realised that an experienced RAF WO doesn't need the same training as a spotty youth, and many WO/JO posts are virtually interchangeable anyway.
Warrant Officers and MACR have for a few years now under certain circumstances been eligible do a short (2 weeks IIRC) Commissioning Course.
Quite understandably (IMHO) we have now come into line with t'Army and realised that an experienced RAF WO doesn't need the same training as a spotty youth, and many WO/JO posts are virtually interchangeable anyway.
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The difference here between the UK/US CWO concept is that the US variety remains a CWO; the UK version are WOs who, after a short officer training course, become commissioned officers (there is no CWO equivalent rank).
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The difference here between the UK/US CWO concept is that the US variety remains a CWO; the UK version are WOs who, after a short officer training course, become commissioned officers (there is no CWO equivalent rank).
Mister B