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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 22:32
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I have read a fair bit about the art in WW1 and am impressed by the lengths snipers took to set up their positions and conceal themselves from the enemy, whilst at the same time giving themselves a good field of fire
I did read once about the exploits of Major Hesketh-Prichard (sp), who set-up the sniper school for the Brits. Interesting chap - used to be a big game hunter before he joined up. His book "Sniping in France" is out of copyright now and is available for free on the 'net, if anyone wants to read more.
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First round from a 92F has a heavy trigger pull as it's double action with a heavy trigger
Presumably the 92F is not the preferred personal weapon of choice for those SF chappies, then? Too much faff for their liking, I'd suggest.
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Sig Sauer anyone ?
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 22:50
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Sig Sauer anyone ?
P210 single-action.... a definite yes.

Presumably the 92F is not the preferred personal weapon of choice for those SF chappies, then? Too much faff for their liking, I'd suggest.
I think the US SF use Sig P226 with is DA first shot SA succeeding, same as 92F? Guess they get lots of training/practice.....
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Which is why I think some SF units use them !


A lot to be said for "first shot" on target !

H&K MP5 being a good example on the SMG side
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 23:09
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Agreed - outstanding shot, and a few less terries to deal with.
R/e tools of trade - MP5 and Sig Sauer - defintely!
And Accuracy International for distance work - reaching out and touching people since 1978
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 23:19
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H&K MP5 being a good example on the SMG side
I got to play with MP5 in full auto very rapidly realised that I could only handle a quick squeeze of the trigger (3-4 rounds) if the shots were to be on target, a Figure 11 at 25 yards.

Instructor put a full mag. in one burst in a tight group at 25 yards on a Figure 11...
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 23:25
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MP5 is far easier to keep on target than say a Uzi, Sten, F1 etc but that is my HO.

Practice makes perfect !


That's why (I think the Navy version was the first) came out with the third safety catch placement of 2 - 3 round burst so the op didn't have to think about it.
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Old 3rd Apr 2014, 01:10
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I understand that the technique with the MP5 is to stitch straight up or down the central body mass following the spinal column.
You are down - and you are staying down, so to speak.
At least that's what one of the moustachio'ed ones said in a documentary I saw about a certain embassy incident in the old country.
But then that might be a bit too much detail for sensitive souls here...
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What's all this talk about 9mm short range weapons - pistols & SMGs? The bloke used a sniper rifle, being a sniper and all...

Good on him!
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True - we drifted off thread a bit.
Googling the Accuracy International and anti-materiel rifles in general I came across some kind of South African beast that fires a 20mm shell!
Mother of God - that's .70 cal.
In a single shot.
I am reading this correctly?
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It's Single shot in the LONGER Version of the 20 cal x110mm and 3-round detachable box Magazine in the two shorter cal, one 14.5mm and the other 20mm but only 82mm long

It is a bolt action.

With big calibres and long heavy bullets, this sometimes makes them single shot as you just can't build a magazine that will take them (and feed them reliably, therefore it is sometimes easier to block off the mag well and make it single feed.
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