tornado down, reported both eject OK
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Hope the crew are drinking free beer all night tonight.
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Another article on the Tornado from today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/1993992.stm
Particularly like the bit that says "it is more likely to be human error" before anyone knows what happened.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/1993992.stm
Particularly like the bit that says "it is more likely to be human error" before anyone knows what happened.
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The chaps have rung their squadron from Lincoln and apologised for their poor parking! The aircraft is sat in about 2 meters of water in the middle of the Humber Estuary just off Brough. One chap was rescued by the local charity run inshore lifeboat 'Humber Rescue' and the second was lifted from his single-seat by an SAR helicopter from Leconfield. Wattisham also sent a Sea King and the Humberside Police Air Support Unit did some valuable spotting as the first aircraft on scene.
(Not the only air crash today unfortunately. Unable to post details other than it was non mil with 2 fatalities)
(Not the only air crash today unfortunately. Unable to post details other than it was non mil with 2 fatalities)
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Max C said:
Unable to confirm other crash details:
Two men died when their light aircraft crashed into a field near Braintree in Essex.
Eye witnesses say they saw the gyrocopter in trouble at about 1730 BST on Friday.
The alarm was raised by road-builders working on a road nearby who ran to the scene but were unable to do anything for the victims.
The crash site, at Blackley Lane in Great Notley, has been sealed off.
Police will not give details about the deceased until their next of kin have been informed.
Air Accident Investigation Bureau officials are due to arrive at the scene, near the Essex Showground, to conduct an inquiry into the crash.
Not military but not the best of days for UK Aviation.
Two men died when their light aircraft crashed into a field near Braintree in Essex.
Eye witnesses say they saw the gyrocopter in trouble at about 1730 BST on Friday.
The alarm was raised by road-builders working on a road nearby who ran to the scene but were unable to do anything for the victims.
The crash site, at Blackley Lane in Great Notley, has been sealed off.
Police will not give details about the deceased until their next of kin have been informed.
Air Accident Investigation Bureau officials are due to arrive at the scene, near the Essex Showground, to conduct an inquiry into the crash.
Not military but not the best of days for UK Aviation.
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Nice to see the "Totally Accurate", and impartial media have pasted a pic of an F3 on their news report. (The second link) They quote a "defence expert" who sumises that it was "Probably" down to "Human Error".......That's good then, we won't have to waste any money or time on a BOI!
Perhaps they should have limited their questions to Mr X from Janes Defence to "Is this the right picture? because we are getting tired of B@llsing it up every time we print one of an aircraft"
Hope the Chaps are really OK, since you can't believe much you read.
Rota
PS: Turns out, in reallity, that the Jet actually crashed in the Trent, just downstream from the Isle of Dogs!
Perhaps they should have limited their questions to Mr X from Janes Defence to "Is this the right picture? because we are getting tired of B@llsing it up every time we print one of an aircraft"
Hope the Chaps are really OK, since you can't believe much you read.
Rota
PS: Turns out, in reallity, that the Jet actually crashed in the Trent, just downstream from the Isle of Dogs!
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Quote from the BBC report -
"An eyewitness who saw an RAF Tornado aircraft crash into the Humber estuary praised the crew for ditching their plane away from built-up areas"
I must congratulate the RAF on the superb training crews are given, allowing them to steer their 'stricken' aircraft safely away from primary schools and old folks' homes in the few seconds available before they decide to take the Martin-Baker option.
"An eyewitness who saw an RAF Tornado aircraft crash into the Humber estuary praised the crew for ditching their plane away from built-up areas"
I must congratulate the RAF on the superb training crews are given, allowing them to steer their 'stricken' aircraft safely away from primary schools and old folks' homes in the few seconds available before they decide to take the Martin-Baker option.
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Do the Martin-Baker company still give a tie to the crew who use the Martin-Baker option?
Well done to the crew, hope they get well soon.
Well done to the crew, hope they get well soon.
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I hope our FJ readers get a warm and fuzzy feeling from this knowing that despite crap serviceability and knackered airframes, the UK SARForce will be there to pick you up when you step over the side. This also during a 24 hour period that saw a RAF Sea King recover a casualty from the QE2 240 miles SW of the Scillies and 6 SAR ac stoodby to evacuate 900 people off a burning ferry. Some other Sevices aviators are fond of knocking the SARForce in general and the RAF element in particular (see other threads for details) as in their view SAR is 'easy and could be done by anyone in a helicopter', and can't understand why we spend so much time training do do our job. If you want to do it right first time, every time you have to train - if you want to make it up as you go along and lose a few people on the way then cuff it - it's much, much cheaper.
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Crab,
Do you want some fish to go with your chip?!
What's your point mate? I really hope you don't think any pilots or navs doubt the skill or balls of the SAR crews. If you do, you must have been speaking to the wrong gang!
We're right behind you.......... or dangling below you. Depends on how much poo we're in.
Do you want some fish to go with your chip?!
What's your point mate? I really hope you don't think any pilots or navs doubt the skill or balls of the SAR crews. If you do, you must have been speaking to the wrong gang!
We're right behind you.......... or dangling below you. Depends on how much poo we're in.
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Brizzo - I agree BUT you should read the BOI reports occasionally and see the time lapse between a problem and ejection operation! You may not wish to live under a RAF flight path if you do. Steering a stricken ship takes time and ejection is quicker than steering. For confirmation read D/IFS/(RAF)140/39/93/1
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More accurate reporting from Sky...
Seen on Sky News text just after the crash:
"A Royal Air Force Tornado has crashed into the river Humber near Brough. Two crew members have ejected.
<snip>
It is not known how many crew were on board at the time."
PTT
"A Royal Air Force Tornado has crashed into the river Humber near Brough. Two crew members have ejected.
<snip>
It is not known how many crew were on board at the time."
PTT
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Good Luck Fin Mates, well done SAR mates.
Top Tip for the subsequent investigation, if there's any doubt, claim amnesia! Failing that it's the two pencils and uncle's underpants etc etc .........
Top Tip for the subsequent investigation, if there's any doubt, claim amnesia! Failing that it's the two pencils and uncle's underpants etc etc .........