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Old 27th Feb 2014, 15:30
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It's not often I come across aviation websites that are also comical.

I accidentally stumbled across this guide to ww2 aircraft, I love the humour in some of the descriptions.

Guide to World War Two Airplanes
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Entertaining. Nice find!
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That is a nice find- but I couldn't access the Mossie
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Yes, I checked his site and the mossie page doesn't exist, not even under a different name to the link. Shame, but what a fun site it is.
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I love the humour in some of the descriptions.
Some of it slightly cruel also techie, ie the French D 520 fighter becoming a Luftwaffe trainer 15 mins after the war started
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The truth often hurts.....
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Yes, it looks very entertaining, and fairly informative. (I haven't checked the whole site yet.) He is spot on about plastic modellers and colour, though.
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Interesting new fact I discovered on the site concerned the Italian Folgore MC.202 fighter. Its left wing was over 8" longer than its right to counteract the engine's torque. Did any other aeroplanes adopt this approach?
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Interesting that the website 'disses' (to use a modern slang term) the French- a common web occurrence, but I would therefore have expected more vehement, potentially amusing, comments about the Italians! Nice, too, that 112 Sqn are given credit for Tomahawk shark's teeth, even tho the pic is of a Kittyhawk.
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Oh another random thought- I noticed the Folgore factoid- any QFIs care to comment on what if any effect that would have on roll rate?
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Argonautical,

Have a look at the BV141 WW2 German bomber.
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Originally Posted by N2erk
any QFIs care to comment on what if any effect that would have on roll rate?
I would never dream of speaking for the QFIs, but I might suggest that it probably depends which way you were trying to roll. Just a thought.
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Courtney- that what I was thinking, but i wondered if airspeed would also be a factor.
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Argonautical,

From very brief experience (10 hrs on Spitfire XIV and XXII), I can see the merit in the idea - even though it was never even thought of in the RAF.

Essentially, Newton rules ! If you fed in bags of power at low airspeed, there was so much torque with a Griffon that the aircraft tried to rotate round the prop !

As the prop rotated anti-clockwise (opposite to the Merlin) , your aircraft tried to rotate clockwise (not good if you are No.3 wingman). So, in theory, an extra few inches on the stbd wing should counteract that.

Trouble is, as you speeded-up the effect vanished, and then you'd be left with a thing bent on flying left-wing-low (and IIRC, the Spit had trims on rudder and elevator, but not on aileron). You just can't win.

N2erk,

Dunno about roll rates. Went round both ways much the same IMHO. Get a real Griffon Spit aficianado on Thread to confirm/correct me.

Claire Chennault and his "Flying Tigers" were the first "Jaws" nosed Kitty/Tomahawks (in Burma just after Pearl Harbor).
 
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AVG (Flying tigers) members on 15 Nov 41, saw a cover picture of 2 Nov 41 issue of "the Illustrated Weekly of India" showing " a striking colour photograph of some RAF Tomahawks with sharks teeth Markings." Its outlined in AVG colours & Markings , Osprey 41, page 29. (There's also a colour photo of the magazine cover in the same book) Charles Bond and Eric Shilling both independently painted their aircraft and the rest is history. http://raf-112-squadron.org/raf_112_...otos_1941.html 11th photo down, Sept 41- Menace, is the photo on the magazine mentioned. Shilling also credited pics of Luftwaffe Me110s of ZG76 in the same mag as his inspiration.
First books I remember reading on military aviation were 2 on the AVG- one by Olga Greenlaw, both books written wartime, and next was God is my Copilot, closely followed by 'baa baa black sheep' That got me hooked on the AVG and military aviation.
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N2erk,

You're right ! (retires to corner, puts dunce's cap on !)

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Wow- that's something I never hear from my wife! AVG inventing the sharkmouth is a common misconception, which is why I was impressed that the funwebsite gave credit to 112 Sqn.
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They don't include the Brewster Buffalo. I guess that would have made thinking up droll remarks just too easy.

Sincere apologies to any surviving pilots who flew it.
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Interesting new fact I discovered on the site concerned the Italian Folgore MC.202 fighter. Its left wing was over 8" longer than its right to counteract the engine's torque. Did any other aeroplanes adopt this approach?
Well, from the powerplant side istr that the Benz engine in the BF109, being an inverted design suffered from excessive oil intrusion into one bank of cylinders due to the way the crank slung the oil around in the crankcase and this affected the mixture and smooth running of the engine. The solution was to change the compression ratio in one bank so as to redress the balance!

I'd love to know is this bizarre solution is in fact true and not a myth. I rather hope it is, it's just too clever not to be true!
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They don't include the Brewster Buffalo. I guess that would have made thinking up droll remarks just too easy.
I once had a paperback with a title something like; 'The Worlds Worst Aircraft', the longest chapter was on the Brewster Buffalo!

It included a mitigating section of the success' achieved by the Finish Air Force! The a/c apparantly liked the cold weather.
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