JTIDS

Any news on this year pay increase, or is it another 1% after inflation pay cut? Did look on google but couldn't find anything.

kintyred

Just get on with your work....and keep paying your taxes. How else are you going to afford to pay the CPI increase on my pension?

Door Slider

The 1% pay award was going to be for a 2 year period howver, it was announced around the middle of last year that public sector workers can expect it to be extended for a further year.

I guess we will find out in about 2 weeks.

racedo

Inflation plus 5%....................Can't do enough for a Good Government that looks after its people properly.

Anybody know where Embassy of this fictional country is

Jumping_Jack

AFPRB report went to the Minister last week. Anticipate publishing 1st or 2nd week in March. Although you'd think there was enough bad news this week with all the flooding to release it safely! Pay restraint in Public sector is with us until 2016 so don't expect more than 1%.

Willard Whyte

Could always leave.

I got 3.2% last April, nice after being stuck on 0% for a while whilst on the 'inside'.

My (current) industry also got 3.7% in '12, 5.5% in '11.

With a pension on top... who needs rain to make the grass greener.

Melchett01

Especially after the increase in the X-Factor last year. Then as we pull out of Afghanistan and are no longer on the front line losing people, then much of the argument that has been used to justify Forces' exemptions or special treatment will disappear. I'm not expecting much more than 1% for a long time.

Incidentally, can anybody remember when we got a pay rise that actually outstripped inflation? I think we got 2.8% in 2009, but from what I can remember RPI has been significantly higher than that for large parts of the past decade. And whilst that might seem generous, the period in late 08 - early 09 when the AFPRB would have been gathering data for the 09 report had rates in excess of 4% at times, so hardly a bumper rise.

Maybe if we start to think of it in terms of an annual pay cut rather than pay rise we won't be so disappointed.

kintyred

Spot on Melchett,

The country has been living beyond its means for many years and even now the government is borrowing about £25 per week per person to fund its spending. If it's to balance the books it still needs to cut a £100bn a year from its budget...nearly 3 times the entire defence spending. My comment about paying for pensions is not entirely without relevance. Today's pensioners are going to become better off in relation to those in work over the next 5,10...maybe 15 years. All in it together?

Melchett01

So the really important question in the midst of the insanity that seems to be infecting various bits of the map, just when will they get round to releasing the AFPRB report this year?

Or are they waiting for some really really bad news to sneak it out under the radar?

I realise it's pretty much a forgone conclusion, but it would still be nice to hear the bad news rather than finding out by accident when the Apr pay statement arrives in May, what with communication being a function of leadership and all that.

Door Slider

The report and announcement will be released today.

Standby for 1%. I'm fairly sure that private sector wages will start to have more generous rises from this year but no doubt public sector restraint will remain, probably until the next recession!

Whenurhappy

BBC and Torygraph have indicated that public sector pay rises will be announced today and 'expected to be below inflation at 1%, saving the Treasury £12 Billion'. Nice of us - those serving or in the Public Sector - to continue to help bail out the banks, isn't it?

Biggus

Whenurhappy,

If you don't like it you don't have to stay, indeed nobody does.


Based on what you have said on other threads you are at least a Wg Cdr, quite possibly even more senior, on a string of overseas (normally embassy related) tours, being extended past 55, possibly well past 55. Since a minimal pay rise isn't exactly a surprise, presumably you took this into account as part of your decision making process when electing to stay? You've still got you house in UK rented out to supplement your income, and your BSA to help pay school fees.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, it is the junior ranks that will suffer the most. How many now are on such low incomes that they qualify for benefits? That is what is disgraceful.

Hueymeister

Thanks to the 40% tax level staying put and despite the lower tax rate moving up to 10k I'm still in the region of £400 a year worse off when compared to inflation. Still, gotta feel for the nurses on this one.

LFFC

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rd-report-2014


Recommendations•


A one per cent increase in base pay;


• Targeted pay measures:
– A one per cent increase in all levels of Longer Separation Allowance with the addition of two extra levels at the top end of the scale;
– A one per cent increase in all levels of Unpleasant Living Allowance;
– A one per cent increase in Recruitment and Retention Pay (RRP) (unless specified otherwise), compensatory allowances and Reserves’ Bounties;
– RRP (Nursing) to be retained for suitably qualified Specialist Nurses, but changed to Non-Continuous Basis for those at OF4 and above RRP (Nursing) for Registered Nurse (Adult) level 2 be held for 2014 and phased out by 2016;
– RRP (Parachute Jump Instructor) levels and supplement to be maintained and rates held at their 2013-14 levels The basis of payment for those at OF4 and above to be changed to a Non-Continuous Basis;
– RRP rates to be held at their 2013-14 levels for those receiving RRP (Mountain Leader) and RRP (Aeromedical and Escort Duty);
– RRP (Diving) rates be uplifted by one per cent; the Clearance Diver Pay Spine be uplifted by one per cent; and the Explosive Ordnance Disposal Supplement for Royal Navy Clearance Divers be increased to align it with RRP (Explosive Ordnance Disposal Operator) and that the increase is also reflected in that element of the Clearance Diver Pay Spine;
– A new Financial Retention Incentive for personnel serving in the Weapon Engineering Submarines Strategic Weapons System (at OR 6-8) and Tactical Weapons System (at OR 6-7) specialities (with effect from 1 October 2013);


• An increase of 2 2 per cent to all grades of Service Family Accommodation rental charges in line with the rental component of RPI;


• Increases of 2 2 per cent to grade 1, 1 5 per cent to grade 2, 0 7 per cent to grade 3 and zero to grade 4 for Single Living Accommodation rental charges;


• A Daily Food Charge of £4.72 (an increase of 29 pence, or 6 5 per cent)

VinRouge

... And a flying pay review in 2016. Good or bad? Have to see how the sf and med escort specialist pay reviews go next year...

It's almost as if they want people to leave without their. So called 'gold plated' pension.

Well **** em. I'm still going to get it, my output may have to be adjusted to account for poor renumeration though!

GW844

Did you notice that MOD asked for an increase in the PAYD core meal rate because of the fact that unlike the old internal Food Charge system these meals are liable to VAT? At least the Review Body turned that down.

Canadian WokkaDoctor

That is exactly what I did and you know what - the grass can be greener on the other side!

Avtur

Once the snow melts! But you are right.

SteveTonks

Trust you to 'feel' the nurses! Plus you are leaving fella so this will have minimal affect on you anyway...

Have to agree with other posts though, my output will have to be reassess with the recent pay cut...

Biggus

I posted this on another thread almost exactly one month ago:



As a very broad generalization:

People who are still "in" exhibit a certain amount of reticence about leaving, a mixture of some remaining loyalty, not wanting to admit defeat, still enjoying some of the job, unsure what they will do when they leave, risk aversion, etc........

People who have already left wonder what all the fuss is about....