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DHFS TO YEOVILTON?

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Old 29th Jan 2014, 15:59
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All the more reason to close Shawbs then MPN11 - think of the recently-retired SOs whose new employers will make a bundle from the contracts awarded
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However, is there anywhere left with such a huge 3-storey Officers Mess? I know the RAF has shrunk to a pinpoint, but there's another bit of infrastructure in the equation as well

I do, honestly, speak not from emotion for my alma mater but simply from the viewpoint that Shawbury has a lot more going for it than just a bunch of buzzing flies
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Much as I hate to say it, CATCS could easily be moved to Boulmer to become an 'ABM' school however, AMSU (aircraft storage) still seems to be utilised and the Fields and Clearings around Shawbury would take some time to build elsewhere although I know they have them around Salisbury Plain and Yeovilton. One other reason Shawbury has no other military airfield nearby and has been heavily utilised by Valley and others.
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This is going to happen. It's all part of the preparations for the disbandment of the RAF on 31 Mar 2018 when the 100 year experiment completes!
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However, is there anywhere left with such a huge 3-storey Officers Mess?
Which actually gets a brief mention in Pevsner.
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 13:32
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DHFS - Shawbury - CATCS - SABM

Perhaps we should all cast our minds back to when the original proposal to create DHFS was staffed. I seem to remember that all three services were invited to submit their proposals for the location on the understanding that the two units not selected would close. Shawbury was selected as the most suitable base for DHFS and yet unsurprisingly neither Culdrose nor Middle Wallop have actually closed. Given the considerable investment in infrastructure, equipment and personnel necessary for a DHFS operation to take place elsewhere, along with a dedicated LFA, I very much doubt a new DHFS contractor would consider moving the operation elsewhere, as currently there is no compelling reason to do so.

I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone from Boulmer tried to turn the discussion over to where a combined CATCS / SABM should be located and rather predictably try to make a case for Boulmer.

I seem to recall that it wasn’t that long ago that Boulmer was scheduled to close and now that the SAR element will be closing down completely in the near future, the argument for closure or some form of draw down at Boulmer becomes even more compelling.

Moving SABM away from Boulmer and finally bringing their Phase Two training within the Training Group by locating a combined school at Shawbury, would make a lot of sense and is certainly a better argument than for locating a combined school at Boulmer. In the interim, whilst no money for a combined school is available, both CATCS and SABM currently have the appropriate facilities at the present locations and so are unlikely to move any time soon. Nevertheless, given the future size of the RAF and the planned amalgamation of the specialisations, a combined school makes sound economic sense and in the long-term I suspect Shawbury will end up being the preferred location.

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Old 30th Jan 2014, 14:23
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now that the SAR element will be closing down completely in the near future, the argument for closure or some form of draw down at Boulmer becomes even more compelling.
The closure of A Flight should and will make little difference to the viability of Boulmer as an ABM base. The SAR Flt has about 20 mil personnel and a slightly larger number of civ engineers/squippers - a small fraction of the hundreds who work at Boulmer. Most of the SARBoys (and girls - due respect to OC A inter alia!) live out, therefore little impact on Mess occupancy/usage etc, and the footprint of the Flt is tiny - all the base will gain when the flt closes is better premises for the firemen and space for a new sports pitch if desired.

Whether Boulmer survives a master plan to combine ABM/ATC trg is another matter...
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Thank you, unknown former colleague

Moving SABM away from Boulmer and finally bringing their Phase Two training within the Training Group by locating a combined school at Shawbury, would make a lot of sense and is certainly a better argument than for locating a combined school at Boulmer. In the interim, whilst no money for a combined school is available, both CATCS and SABM currently have the appropriate facilities at the present locations and so are unlikely to move any time soon. Nevertheless, given the future size of the RAF and the planned amalgamation of the specialisations, a combined school makes sound economic sense and in the long-term I suspect Shawbury will end up being the preferred location.

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