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“to fly is heavenly but to hover is divine”

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Old 17th Jan 2014, 18:10
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“to fly is heavenly but to hover is divine”

Harrier’s Secret of Success Event Date/Time: 20 January 2014 22:00 to 21:00
Event Type: Technical Lecture | Industry Sector: Aerospace

Event Address The Runway Visitor Park
Ringway Restaurant
Sunbank Lane
Altrincham
Manchester
WA15 8XQ
United Kingdom

Speaker Details: Dr Thurai Rahulan, Salford University

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This event is organised by the Royal Aeronautical Society - Manchester Branch.

Harriers Secret of Success A lecture by Dr Thurai Rahulan of University of Salford. 20 January 2013 7pm for 8pm at Ringways Restaurant, Runway Visitor Park, Manchester Airport. Arrive in the Runways Visitors Park (previously called the Aviation Viewing Park) AFTER 7pm to avoid the usual parking charge and state RAeS visitor on the door. RAeS Manchester Branch annual joint meeting with the Aviation Society.

There is a saying “to fly is heavenly but to hover is divine”. The ability to rise and descend vertically negates the need for runways, but may involve design restrictions that compromise high speed transit and agile manoeuvre requirements. About forty, vertical take-off, fixed wing aircraft have been flight demonstrated; of these, only one has succeeded in establishing an impressive service record spanning four decades - the Harrier. Using simple theory without equations, this talk will explain the reasons why the Harrier has proved to be remarkably successful since it entered service in 1969. The limitations of various other configurations will be addressed and the presentation will be concluded by discussing the pros and cons of the replacement for the Harrier, the F-35B.

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Address: BAE Systems, S420A, Samlesbury Aerodrome, Balderstone,, Blackburn, BB2 7LF, United Kingdom.

Harrier?s Secret of Success

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Not only able to hover, but warp time as well.


Harrier’s Secret of Success Event Date/Time: 20 January 2014 22:00 to 21:00.
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I wondered why I was not able to attend... Beam Me Up Scottie!
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Don't tell everyone please, I want to be able to get in. Seriously Dr Rahulan is a fantastic speaker who delivers a presentation which is brilliantly informative but the lay member can understand.
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To go faster than a bullet is even better....
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To go faster than a bullet is even better ...
Agree Leon ... but it's having to wear your underpants over your flying suit that's not so cool
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Why not Coff? It works for Superman...and Louis Lane is hot!
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Fast Jets fly because they are sleek and aerodynamic.
Helicopters fly because they are so ugly the earth pushes them away!
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the replacement for the Harrier, the F-35B.
So what are we going to replace our GR4s with? Typhoon I guess. So, how many Dave Bs will we need?
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So what are we going to replace our GR4s with? Typhoon I guess. So, how many Dave Bs will we need?
Courtney, I think the F-35B will replace both Harrier AND Tornado. It will have the flexibility to use the Harrier concept (to a degree) but with a range and payload more akin to GR4. As for your second question, it will be interesting to see how numbers pan out. With the initial requirement (Harrier 'like' replacement) comes a further potential requirement to replace GR4 FE@R with F-35 (possibly F-35A) so we could see a future buy of A models, though certainly not in this decade. So total buy (B and A model) could be higher than is currently being mooted.

Granted, a number of GR4-unique capabilities such as Storm Shadow will migrate to Typhoon initially however, the aspiration and plan to fit it externally to F-35 is there.
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58 Harriers languishing in the Arizona desert.

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It makes you want to weep
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Out of intreast what are the strange looking things in the foreground
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Out of intreast what are the strange looking things in the foreground
Could be wings?
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Note the wings & tails have been removed from the fuselages.

That's because the USMC's AV-8B+ have a different fuselage from the GR.7/9s, but the wings & tails (and engines) are the virtually same, and can/will be used (with refurbishment) to keep the USMC's Harrier IIs operating until the currently-planned 2030 OSD.

I know I've posted this before, but it never hurts.
The 1990 radar "upgrade" to the AV-8B:

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Could be wings?
well I guessed that but wings of what, almost looks like a sea vixen wing but theres now way any ideas anyone.

Sorry crossed post thx for answer.

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Looks to me like the wings from the Harriers.
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Yes, they are the wings.
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........ in transit/storage framework.
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