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Old 10th Jan 2014, 10:17
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Compare and contrast, 2014 dogfighters

The top ten dog-fighters of 2014 (WVR fighter assessment) | Hush-Kit

Of course we would all agree . .
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Seriously, no F15, and Hornet/Super Hornet are the considered the same?

Last time I looked, the USAF were flying 15 & 16 as aggressors, nothing else.

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No, the F-15 and F-16 are very much in frontline service with the cousins.

Lists like this are always subjective and by their very nature generate debate, which isn't ALWAYs a bad thing.
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F15 with its updates is almost a 4th Gen + jet.

Typhoon with poor Alpha performance...?
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Isn't the whole point to avoid getting into a furball?
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Isn't the whole point to avoid getting into a furball?

not if you want to have fun!
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Oh we can have our fun in bucketfuls.....Tr 3 Typhoon first flight video..achtung Spitfuer...


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So the number one dogfighter has older and slow to deploy missiles and loses speed rapidly.
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Speed is the new stealth dontcha know...
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Dog Fighting is bad tactics.....killing the enemy BVR is the key to survival.

Hit from afar....get your hits in.....and beat feet to do it again another day.

Nothing has changed in that regard since WWI.

Far better to make that one pass through the enemy formation....get what you can and set up for another go where you have every advantage.

What has changed is the technology that allows you to this from a far greater distance and with much more efficiency.

Dog Fights occur when both the Good and the Bad Guys get it wrong.

Air Forces have too few airplanes and the inability to replace them to be able to go out and take losses so it really gets down to being better at killing the bad guys and not risking your own aircraft unnecessarily.

It is not very romantic or macho....but winning is everything....and you have to be alive to Win.
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Fond memories of a certain 'Ning mate at Tengah, who use to like to try to dog it with 20's Hunters. They had miles of film with the pipper on Muldoon's cockpit
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Hit from afar....get your hits in.....and beat feet to do it again another day.
Maybe that's what the fighter boys should have done in the Summer of 1940. It might have saved me all the effort of learning German as a second language.
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The term 'dogfight' is superfluous. Its all long range missiles and UAV's. Or maybe Manpads.
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...assuming your ROEs allow you to go BVR...
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