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BBC News - MPs set to receive 11% pay rise
Bodes well for the acceptance of our own independent pay review body recommendation this year
Bodes well for the acceptance of our own independent pay review body recommendation this year
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Averages out at 2 percent a year considering they have had a pay freeze since 2010. And 75k isn't exactly a lot for your average backbencher, equivalent to level 31 Pro aviator.
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Nice work if you can get it. I work for local government and have had a pay freeze since 2007. There was a rumour we were getting 1% this year but that's just been scotched. Yes I know that MPs don't set their own pay rises.
Given that there are over a 100 paid ministers for Westminster alone (Wales, Scotland and NI add yet more), if you are in power the odd of pulling in just a basic backbencher's salary from the tax payer is relatively low.
For other professions the MPs would be very keen to point out the expenses, grace and favour, tax breaks, direct employment of spouses and other family members, pension accrual rate, golden goodbyes, no record of hours actually worked, no compulsion to actually come to work etc etc….
For other professions the MPs would be very keen to point out the expenses, grace and favour, tax breaks, direct employment of spouses and other family members, pension accrual rate, golden goodbyes, no record of hours actually worked, no compulsion to actually come to work etc etc….
However it's not just being an so called underpaid MP is it, how many of us could do these jobs whilst in 'full employment'?
Alan Milburn
Labour, Darlington
Former health secretary earned up to £30,000 last year as an adviser to Lloydspharmacy's Healthcare Advisory Panel, up to £35,000 as an adviser to equity investment firm Bridgepoint Capital, up to £25,000 as an adviser to PepsiCo UK, up to £25,000 from writing articles for national newspapers and an unknown sum as a non-executive director of AM Strategy Ltd, according to his declaration in the Register of Interests. Known total: up to £115,000
David Blunkett
Labour, Sheffield Brightside
Former home secetary earned up to £50,000 last year as an adviser to online logistics firm UC Group, up to £30,000 as an adviser to employment firm A4E Ltd, up to £25,000 from First Group as chair of Commission on School Transport, up to £60,000 fron newspaper articles including a 12-column Sun contract worth up to £50,000, up to £25,000 for speeches and an unknown sum as a non-executive director of Tribune Business Systems according to his declaration in the Register of Interests. Total: up to £190,000
Alan Milburn
Labour, Darlington
Former health secretary earned up to £30,000 last year as an adviser to Lloydspharmacy's Healthcare Advisory Panel, up to £35,000 as an adviser to equity investment firm Bridgepoint Capital, up to £25,000 as an adviser to PepsiCo UK, up to £25,000 from writing articles for national newspapers and an unknown sum as a non-executive director of AM Strategy Ltd, according to his declaration in the Register of Interests. Known total: up to £115,000
David Blunkett
Labour, Sheffield Brightside
Former home secetary earned up to £50,000 last year as an adviser to online logistics firm UC Group, up to £30,000 as an adviser to employment firm A4E Ltd, up to £25,000 from First Group as chair of Commission on School Transport, up to £60,000 fron newspaper articles including a 12-column Sun contract worth up to £50,000, up to £25,000 for speeches and an unknown sum as a non-executive director of Tribune Business Systems according to his declaration in the Register of Interests. Total: up to £190,000
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Just This Once: if you graphed that against the UK total population, it would (without crunching the maths properly) be pretty much a flat line.
Whether a proportionate increase in population means we need a proportionate increase in legislators and administrators is a different question (though it's assumed by Onceapilot)...
Whether a proportionate increase in population means we need a proportionate increase in legislators and administrators is a different question (though it's assumed by Onceapilot)...
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Bodes well for the acceptance of our own independent pay review body recommendation this year
"Bodes well for the acceptance of our own independent pay review body recommendation this year"
Don't you believe it mate........we tried it once (2002) and even used the same independent pay revue body that the government had just used to award themselves a stonking pay rise........they recommended we get a thirty per cent pay rise but funnily enough the then labour government told us to get stuffed! Not surprising really...........how were we so stupid as to think that Bliar and the economic "boy wonder" Brown could be expected to play fair!
I know mate, you don't really believe either do you?
Don't you believe it mate........we tried it once (2002) and even used the same independent pay revue body that the government had just used to award themselves a stonking pay rise........they recommended we get a thirty per cent pay rise but funnily enough the then labour government told us to get stuffed! Not surprising really...........how were we so stupid as to think that Bliar and the economic "boy wonder" Brown could be expected to play fair!
I know mate, you don't really believe either do you?
"They don't set their own pay", etc. But happy to take it.
The only truth here is politicians setting pay restraint for gov employees and verbally scolding bankers et al for their pay whilst acepting a very big pay rise by any standards.
I'm sorry, but when they are cutting everyone else's pay/benefits/etc, this massive pay rise sends an unimaginable message to the people they've been telling how important austerity is. Irony? No, arrogance.
The only truth here is politicians setting pay restraint for gov employees and verbally scolding bankers et al for their pay whilst acepting a very big pay rise by any standards.
I'm sorry, but when they are cutting everyone else's pay/benefits/etc, this massive pay rise sends an unimaginable message to the people they've been telling how important austerity is. Irony? No, arrogance.
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Mp's pay has never equalled their responsibility or expectations in terms of abode location. One of the prime reasons stated for fiddled expenses has always been that allowances made up for the poor pay of MPs, as salaries have been suppressed over the years for political reasons.
Would Cameron and milliband be saying that they opposed the rise if it didn't win them votes at the next election?
If anyone is jealous of mp pay, why not inform manning you are running at the next by election?
Would Cameron and milliband be saying that they opposed the rise if it didn't win them votes at the next election?
If anyone is jealous of mp pay, why not inform manning you are running at the next by election?
Last edited by VinRouge; 8th Dec 2013 at 21:08.
Originally Posted by VinRouge
One of the prime reasons stated for fiddled expenses has always been that allowances made up for the poor pay of MPs, as salaries have been suppressed over the years for political reasons.
"If anyone is jealous of mp pay, why not inform manning you are running at the next by election?"
Jealous........strange choice of word. Jealousy has nothing whatsoever to do with it.......it's about leading by example. Something I would have thought any forces officer worth his or her salt would strive to demonstrate to his or her subordinates. Here we go again........snouts back in the trough! Courtney is quite right.......try any, and I mean any funny business in my branch of the emergency services and it's goodnight Vienna........and rightly so. I don't want to be told we're in it together, when clearly, we aren't!
Jealous........strange choice of word. Jealousy has nothing whatsoever to do with it.......it's about leading by example. Something I would have thought any forces officer worth his or her salt would strive to demonstrate to his or her subordinates. Here we go again........snouts back in the trough! Courtney is quite right.......try any, and I mean any funny business in my branch of the emergency services and it's goodnight Vienna........and rightly so. I don't want to be told we're in it together, when clearly, we aren't!