Kicked out of school for wearing ATC uniform
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Kicked out of school for wearing ATC uniform
Playing devils advocate.
1) did they seek permission beforehand?
2) are the school/academy uniform rules laid out clearly in unambiguous language?
Sorry, but if I pitched up in something that is not in accordance with the regulations (however misguided or not they may be), I cannot expect to hide behind such utterances as "it was for this reason."
And before you jump on me, I am a former Air Cadet and Civilian Instructor, who was attending my local war memorial at 11am on the 11th, and observing the service on the 10th.
1) did they seek permission beforehand?
2) are the school/academy uniform rules laid out clearly in unambiguous language?
Sorry, but if I pitched up in something that is not in accordance with the regulations (however misguided or not they may be), I cannot expect to hide behind such utterances as "it was for this reason."
And before you jump on me, I am a former Air Cadet and Civilian Instructor, who was attending my local war memorial at 11am on the 11th, and observing the service on the 10th.
Dash8 - I accept your point, but maybe the school should have taken the longer view - 3 kids honouring the fallen and setting an example of "service". I think the school authorities look pretty stupid and short sighted.
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Whatever you do, don't read the full story 
For this to be any form of 'story' the cadets would gave to have been told to change at morning registration ... they weren't.
They were allowed to continue to wear their uniforms in order to mark the time of the Armistice until after midday. For the remainder if the school day they had to comply with the schools uniform policy. I don't see any problem here.
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Remembrance Day was the day before this happened.
The day in question was Armistice Day.
For this to be any form of 'story' the cadets would gave to have been told to change at morning registration ... they weren't.
They were allowed to continue to wear their uniforms in order to mark the time of the Armistice until after midday. For the remainder if the school day they had to comply with the schools uniform policy. I don't see any problem here.
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Dash8 - I accept your point, but maybe the school should have taken the longer view - 3 kids honouring the fallen and setting an example of "service". I think the school authorities look pretty stupid and short sighted.
The day in question was Armistice Day.
Pox on the Headmaster who cannot see the good spirit in these young people's actions.
I used to always wear my ATC uniform proudly to school on the 11th Nov as well as Battle of Britain Day in my time. Our school cadet unit was Army and my ATC unit was a "town flight".
I used to always wear my ATC uniform proudly to school on the 11th Nov as well as Battle of Britain Day in my time. Our school cadet unit was Army and my ATC unit was a "town flight".
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Imho the Headmaster did well by allowing them to continue wearing their uniform during the first half of the school day. I'll wager that even after the Sunday Remembrance Parade itself, cadets around the country changed into civvies as soon as the opportunity arose.
Kicked out of school?
The only way anyone should read that phrase, is in association with an exclusion. An exclusion is serious. This ain't. These kids were correctly treated by the school.
As a serving Head (primary mind, not secondary), I will bet that had the pupils made a pitch via the School Council or whatever, they would likely have been invited to front an assembly or some such to explain to the school what they do, why, and why remembrance is important.
I would bet my pension that they would not have been pulled up for wearing a poppy on their uniform, which you might also regard as 'breaking the school uniform code'.
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The only way anyone should read that phrase, is in association with an exclusion. An exclusion is serious. This ain't. These kids were correctly treated by the school.
As a serving Head (primary mind, not secondary), I will bet that had the pupils made a pitch via the School Council or whatever, they would likely have been invited to front an assembly or some such to explain to the school what they do, why, and why remembrance is important.
I would bet my pension that they would not have been pulled up for wearing a poppy on their uniform, which you might also regard as 'breaking the school uniform code'.
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Not an official duty or parade - Therefore no uniform should be worn.
I applaud the sentiment as a Ex-Cadet, but the rules are the rules.
Not insured for another thing as not an official engagement or officially sanctioned.
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I applaud the sentiment as a Ex-Cadet, but the rules are the rules.
Not insured for another thing as not an official engagement or officially sanctioned.
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I suppose one could trip over a shoelace or something.
Or maybe their beret could fall over their eyes and they could walk into a door and get whiplash.
Or maybe their beret could fall over their eyes and they could walk into a door and get whiplash.
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some other Schools seem more enlightened
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hannparker, Wolverhampton, United Kingdom, 15 hours ago
Can I add, they were given prior permission by some staff, and the 2minute silence was cut to 30secs in some classes!
Can I add, they were given prior permission by some staff, and the 2minute silence was cut to 30secs in some classes!
CMW, Manchester, United Kingdom, 14 hours ago
I am a teacher. We arranged for our children who are cadets to wear their uniform for the day as part of our commemorations.
I am a teacher. We arranged for our children who are cadets to wear their uniform for the day as part of our commemorations.
Andrew Smith, coventry, United Kingdom, 14 hours ago
Last year one of my students asked if he could wear his army cadet uniform, I asked his head of year and it was agreed. The key was he asked and organised the sale of poppies.
Last year one of my students asked if he could wear his army cadet uniform, I asked his head of year and it was agreed. The key was he asked and organised the sale of poppies.
jayque, Debtors Retreat, 15 hours ago
My sons school always invited cadets to wear their cadet uniforms on Armistice day they also look far smarter than most of the uniforms these days anyway
My sons school always invited cadets to wear their cadet uniforms on Armistice day they also look far smarter than most of the uniforms these days anyway
Gaz, Bolton, 16 hours ago
If the school has a policy on this matter it could do with a update. I had over 20 cadets in school from all the cadet services plus scouts and guides in uniform for a full week to commemorate the event and raise the profile of uniformed youth organisations. It all helps in personal development opportunities for young people. Our school policy allows for it! Take a leaf is my suggestion and update.
If the school has a policy on this matter it could do with a update. I had over 20 cadets in school from all the cadet services plus scouts and guides in uniform for a full week to commemorate the event and raise the profile of uniformed youth organisations. It all helps in personal development opportunities for young people. Our school policy allows for it! Take a leaf is my suggestion and update.
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The danger is that the cadets will look smarter than the school uniform wearers, which in turn might cause anxiety to the others, inevitably resulting in claims for therapy etc. Wise call, now I've reflected on it.
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The danger is that the cadets will look smarter than the school uniform wearers, which in turn might cause anxiety to the others, inevitably resulting in claims for therapy etc. Wise call, now I've reflected on it.
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Even worse, they might be reminded of the atrocity of war.......
I thought you were a retired head, CG?
I thought you were a retired head, CG?
Kicked out of school for wearing ATC uniform
Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons...
To those who are outraged by the actions of the school staff, how do you feel when you read head lines about Muslim girls being turned away from schools due to their wearing of face veils. That's a breach of uniform guidelines too.
Just saying...
BV
To those who are outraged by the actions of the school staff, how do you feel when you read head lines about Muslim girls being turned away from schools due to their wearing of face veils. That's a breach of uniform guidelines too.
Just saying...
BV
I thought you were a retired head, CG?
Did a term in the summer, and now onto my third school in a year for a term which has just been extended to Easter 14. Am panicking about whether smoke n mirrors can last for 2 term in the same place.
Be assured, I do not confuse the words 'best' and 'only'! I am Plan B at the mo.
Having a new Audi though, so hey ho.
CG
The danger is that the cadets will look smarter than the school uniform wearers, which in turn might cause anxiety to the others, inevitably resulting in claims for therapy etc. Wise call, now I've reflected on it.