New USN Carrier USS Gerald R Ford
It wouldn't be christened USS Barack Hussein Obama, but surely propheted.
I thought one had to be dead to have a warship named (exception Bush but there is time) so Carter misses out for the moment. I think the QE referred to was the 1st but could be wrong and PoW refers to the generic position (the last ship so named was sunk in 1941 after a short and not very sucessful career).
Jimmy Carter was an engineer on nuclear submarines.
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Would anyone want to see a USS Obama?
No worries, ain't gonna happen.
Would anyone want to see a USS Obama?
No worries, ain't gonna happen.
Obama ain't so bad.
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USS William Jefferson Clinton
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Yep - I don't like the man but I could argue he will put the USA first and foremost above every other nation on the planet. Maybe that's why they name all of them after the Prez. anyway?
What about the USS William Jefferson Clinton then? In fairness to him then that should be like er, a nursing ship, hospital ship manned by fit trim specimens of the USAs finest military females?
And maybe with a bit of R+R capability for the troops thrown in? A party ship? Relax the alcohol rule.....free 30 minute laundry...
Bet they'd be no fiscal hang-ups funding that.
In counter we can have HMS......John Major. HMS Prescott. HMS Blunkett. HMS Boris Johnson. HMS Milligan (higher proportion of the gender diverse, transsexual, gay and lesbian military community to volunteer for that one I think). A whole new class of ship and nothing that we don't deserve.
Enough. Po face mode back on again.
Yep - I don't like the man but I could argue he will put the USA first and foremost above every other nation on the planet. Maybe that's why they name all of them after the Prez. anyway?
What about the USS William Jefferson Clinton then? In fairness to him then that should be like er, a nursing ship, hospital ship manned by fit trim specimens of the USAs finest military females?
And maybe with a bit of R+R capability for the troops thrown in? A party ship? Relax the alcohol rule.....free 30 minute laundry...Bet they'd be no fiscal hang-ups funding that.
In counter we can have HMS......John Major. HMS Prescott. HMS Blunkett. HMS Boris Johnson. HMS Milligan (higher proportion of the gender diverse, transsexual, gay and lesbian military community to volunteer for that one I think). A whole new class of ship and nothing that we don't deserve.
Enough. Po face mode back on again.
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Does anyone know if CVN 78 is under/on/over budget?
Also, what is the cost (excl air group) of one US super carrier versus one QE2 class one either outright cost or tonne for tonne?
I know that US CV's are all nuclear powered, (hence the N!) and that ours won't be but what difference will that make in use (apart from being able to visit nuclear free zones such as NZ) in terms of running costs. (i.e. an mpg equivalent).
As an ex- crab I must say that had the RN had serious FW flying to offer (in 1979) I might have been tempted to chose a dark blue suit rather than the light blue variety! Good luck to those starting their careers in 2017; I hope we can afford to keep them going and still have a Royal Navy for the next 50 years!
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Also, what is the cost (excl air group) of one US super carrier versus one QE2 class one either outright cost or tonne for tonne?
I know that US CV's are all nuclear powered, (hence the N!) and that ours won't be but what difference will that make in use (apart from being able to visit nuclear free zones such as NZ) in terms of running costs. (i.e. an mpg equivalent).
As an ex- crab I must say that had the RN had serious FW flying to offer (in 1979) I might have been tempted to chose a dark blue suit rather than the light blue variety! Good luck to those starting their careers in 2017; I hope we can afford to keep them going and still have a Royal Navy for the next 50 years!
MB
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Nuke vs Conventional power.....Endurance!
Our big Carriers can off load fuel to Escorts if no Oiler is nearby.
Yours will be dependent upon Oilers themselves.
Ability to generate Electrical Power for Disaster support purposes.
Not visiting New Zealand is not a huge loss now is it?
Quite a bit of difference really.
Our big Carriers can off load fuel to Escorts if no Oiler is nearby.
Yours will be dependent upon Oilers themselves.
Ability to generate Electrical Power for Disaster support purposes.
Not visiting New Zealand is not a huge loss now is it?
Quite a bit of difference really.
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The rust on the bow? That had gone, I noticed in a picture of the official "launch" the other day. The bow was tight up on the Casson to a few inches so maybe it had been recently whacked by a close moving vehicle or similar docky thing? Rain got in, bit of rust developed?
There will be a lot more slap put on that thing before final acceptance. You never get them gleaming anyway, even from new.
Although when I was on HMS Daring for a shortie from new that was gleaming, beautiful, buzzing with power. That felt brand new.(Top Captain and ships company-what a difference).
The rust on the bow? That had gone, I noticed in a picture of the official "launch" the other day. The bow was tight up on the Casson to a few inches so maybe it had been recently whacked by a close moving vehicle or similar docky thing? Rain got in, bit of rust developed?
There will be a lot more slap put on that thing before final acceptance. You never get them gleaming anyway, even from new.
Although when I was on HMS Daring for a shortie from new that was gleaming, beautiful, buzzing with power. That felt brand new.(Top Captain and ships company-what a difference).
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POL supply to the new RN carriers.
The RFA hasn't even got the tankers for the RN CV program yet. They are still in build in Korea/Orient last I heard and then have to come here as hulls to (Barrow? Birkenhead?) for fitting out. This lack off was yet another piece of verbal crap I had to deal with from the miserable bearded RFA monkies on one of their precious f&ckin ships I was actually on (and which they actually think they and their "company" owns.
rather than HM the Queen and her loyal taxpayers.
rather than HM the Queen and her loyal taxpayers.
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I wonder if BAe had a hand in the design
BAe bought the QE class design from the French
I wonder if BAe had a hand in the design
BAe bought the QE class design from the French
However, HMG did manage to sell the QE design to the French government in around 2006/7 for £100M (reportedly). Allegedly the French chief naval arch had a fit (and not in a good way) when he saw what they'd paid for (problem being the lack of detail at that stage, not the actual design).
Jimmy Carter was an engineer on nuclear submarines.
and has a Seawolf class SSN named after him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter_(SSN-23)
and has a Seawolf class SSN named after him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter_(SSN-23)
Nice ship, not so sure about the name though - as some have already noted, he wasn't exactly the most inspiring prez. Maybe they should start using VP's names instead e.g the USS Dan Quayle.
Is there one named after Ford's predecessor?
Is there one named after Ford's predecessor?
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Take some nails, bits of board, nail them together and call it Ford..
With Boris Airport in for some £49 odd billion, it would be cheaper to buy one of these and anchor it in the Thames.
With Boris Airport in for some £49 odd billion, it would be cheaper to buy one of these and anchor it in the Thames.
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J-15 Green, ORANGE & RED Lights for PLAN LSO
ON previous page: http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post8145066 'Hangarshuffle' had indicated the J-15 photos. In URL below substitute 'blog' for the "blag" in the URL to go to the original photo:
http://4.bp.blagspot.com/-5B_QXZoC_a...tional+(2).jpg
In the zoom pic below we see the vertical GREEN, ORANGE & RED lights for the PLAN LSO to gauge aircraft at Optimum Angle of Attack during a night approach particularly.
http://4.bp.blagspot.com/-5B_QXZoC_a...tional+(2).jpg
In the zoom pic below we see the vertical GREEN, ORANGE & RED lights for the PLAN LSO to gauge aircraft at Optimum Angle of Attack during a night approach particularly.
