Possible Nuclear Accident
Originally Posted by Hethrow Harry
Probably the warheads wouldn't go off (but that's the subject of this whole thread) but if the reactor area had been hit and breached rather than a rather slow bump amidships then you would certainly have had some radioactive spillage
It is not as simple as thinking that the numerous reactors around the world are so vulnerable to damage. And the warheads are very much safer than you may think.
Happy to discuss further - up to a point.
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Re the convoys
Are you kidding? So what were the blue unmarked curtain-side artics that used to travel up and down the M6, stopping overnight at Territorial Army training camps (I won't say which ones......)
Usually discretely followed by an unmarked Range Rover
The local press were insistent there were nuclear weapons on board, and so were the local camp guards
Are you kidding? So what were the blue unmarked curtain-side artics that used to travel up and down the M6, stopping overnight at Territorial Army training camps (I won't say which ones......)
Usually discretely followed by an unmarked Range Rover
The local press were insistent there were nuclear weapons on board, and so were the local camp guards
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It was an overnight stop-off point, roughly midway between sites in Scotland and England. Also very close to the M6 so easy access without needing to enter a town.
Armed guards on the gate and patrolling whenever one of the blue trucks was present. At the time the normal site security was just uniformed civilians. The local council were quite agitated about it.
It all stopped around seven / eight years ago
Armed guards on the gate and patrolling whenever one of the blue trucks was present. At the time the normal site security was just uniformed civilians. The local council were quite agitated about it.
It all stopped around seven / eight years ago
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The local council were quite agitated about it.
Ah! the luxury of whingeing during the piping times of peace!
When I lived in Bessacarr Doncaster in the 1970s and our temporary Vulcans scrambled at 0430 or whenever, I fielded a lot of flak from neighbours about "my" V-force.
"Sound of Freedom and sod off!"
I can't remember complaints during the 2nd World War about noisy ackack and fighters, and indeed the huge waves early on D Day.
Ah! the luxury of whingeing during the piping times of peace!
When I lived in Bessacarr Doncaster in the 1970s and our temporary Vulcans scrambled at 0430 or whenever, I fielded a lot of flak from neighbours about "my" V-force.
"Sound of Freedom and sod off!"
I can't remember complaints during the 2nd World War about noisy ackack and fighters, and indeed the huge waves early on D Day.
Ah, yes. But those folks were always there to protest and complain about nuclear weapons and turned out in droves when the readiness of those that carried the deterent to protect the the protestors had to excercise their readiness - even though they weren't carrying nukes at the time. I have to ask where the hell the protestors were when the weapons were being used for real. No priotests there, I notice.
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Moving special weapons from a secret RNAD outside Salisbury to a certain Bovine Point in deep Westoland, with a handfull of bootnecks riding shotgun, was always safe; except on those few occasions when Jack Frost conspired to put the wagons in a ditch. The greatest danger ever was impact damage to the wildlife.
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ricardian
no - thats the Box tunnel complex
At least six different sites were there - RAF control site, bomb store, records store, regional seat of government, emergency government citadel, navy control site.....
But thats a fair distance from Salisbury
Chilmark was close to Salisbury
no - thats the Box tunnel complex
At least six different sites were there - RAF control site, bomb store, records store, regional seat of government, emergency government citadel, navy control site.....
But thats a fair distance from Salisbury
Chilmark was close to Salisbury
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ludgar. Good guess but the wrong railway line. You would have been hard pressed to see it and there's little external sign now that it had been there.
ricardian. You were on the right lines (as it were) with "tunnel" but miles off in location.
Anyway, I'm risking Thread drift; sorry.
ricardian. You were on the right lines (as it were) with "tunnel" but miles off in location.
Anyway, I'm risking Thread drift; sorry.
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There you go op...that should get your toes curling.
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(I won't say which ones......)
the stop-off points have been discussed on here several times and people have waxed lyrical about the friendliness of the good people of rural Northumberland for example
Even posted pictures...
A lot of what used to be A State Secret is now freely available on the Web............
the stop-off points have been discussed on here several times and people have waxed lyrical about the friendliness of the good people of rural Northumberland for example
Even posted pictures...
A lot of what used to be A State Secret is now freely available on the Web............
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"Somewhere near Chilmark?"
So secret that they had a Tallboy or a Grand Slam as gate guardian??????
and of course the "maintenance Junction" on the M4 west of Newbury................
So secret that they had a Tallboy or a Grand Slam as gate guardian??????
and of course the "maintenance Junction" on the M4 west of Newbury................
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Don't forget it's not just our foreign counterparts that mess up, remember the Nuke in 84 that rolled off the Trolley at Bruggen damaging it and ensuring several rapid postings of staff... The reason being it wasn't strapped down, due to a lack of equipment. Container seems to have been a pretty shoddy design.
The board of enquiry report into the incident is online and makes interesting reading, will give the Staish his dues, he did try to support his Officers in his summing up comments.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ruggen_boi.pdf
UK nuclear accidents blamed on poor safety - Rob Edwards
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The board of enquiry report into the incident is online and makes interesting reading, will give the Staish his dues, he did try to support his Officers in his summing up comments.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ruggen_boi.pdf
UK nuclear accidents blamed on poor safety - Rob Edwards
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WEBF, RAF Regiment? One would have thought so and no doubt many light blue would have pressed for them.
It may be that it was given to the RM as they could then cover both RAF and RN convoys with one trained cover force rather than duplicate with the two services.
It may be that it was given to the RM as they could then cover both RAF and RN convoys with one trained cover force rather than duplicate with the two services.
