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Rhino Power said:
I'd add the following, if the 'security' couldn't even recognize the DOY, what the fcuk are they doing in that job in the first place?! He may not be an immediate heir to the throne but, FFS come on, get a clue!
-RP
You are of course completely correct........unless it was in any way possible that an intruder/terrorist or security tester could make themselves look like the DOY!
Its a pretty common thing to be honest, and can be very high level (I've personally entered top security RAF underground bunkers dressed in an RAF uniform that was not mine (I was in the army) as well as many other secure establishments while in false uniform or works gear), or can be as simple as terrorists dressing in Afghan police uniforms and then killing allied forces.
I'm guessing the police concerned may have been tested for security in the past, but that is not to say that this is why they questioned the DOY.
I'd add the following, if the 'security' couldn't even recognize the DOY, what the fcuk are they doing in that job in the first place?! He may not be an immediate heir to the throne but, FFS come on, get a clue!
-RP
You are of course completely correct........unless it was in any way possible that an intruder/terrorist or security tester could make themselves look like the DOY!
Its a pretty common thing to be honest, and can be very high level (I've personally entered top security RAF underground bunkers dressed in an RAF uniform that was not mine (I was in the army) as well as many other secure establishments while in false uniform or works gear), or can be as simple as terrorists dressing in Afghan police uniforms and then killing allied forces.
I'm guessing the police concerned may have been tested for security in the past, but that is not to say that this is why they questioned the DOY.
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Here's an "interesting" thought....should POW pre-decease HMQ then DOY becomes next in line to the throne and not DOC!!
Thread creep I know, but no worse than old RHQ security measures (sorry to single that post out). Indeed probably more pertinent given views about DOY aired earlier in the thread, afterall Charlie isn't getting any younger!
Thread creep I know, but no worse than old RHQ security measures (sorry to single that post out). Indeed probably more pertinent given views about DOY aired earlier in the thread, afterall Charlie isn't getting any younger!
DoY has form in this regard, although unlikely that any currently serving Plod will know about it.
After the Michael Fagan incident at the Palace in the early 1980’s he took it upon himself when staying at Royal residences, to ‘test’ security much to the non-amusement of Royal Plod at the time.
My late father was serving Met Plod at the time based at Buck House and Windsor Castle, and on several occasions (IIRC at Windsor) DoY decided to test security. One night my old man was on duty when DoY made one of his early hours security tests and after being successfully challenged by a copper the copper called it in as a false alarm whereupon the duty sergeant replied back along the lines of.....
“Is it that pr**k Andrew playing silly buggers again” without realising that DoY was standing right next to the copper……
DoY took the radio and replied back to the duty sergeant that it was indeed him but a long silence was the only reply he got back.
After the Michael Fagan incident at the Palace in the early 1980’s he took it upon himself when staying at Royal residences, to ‘test’ security much to the non-amusement of Royal Plod at the time.
My late father was serving Met Plod at the time based at Buck House and Windsor Castle, and on several occasions (IIRC at Windsor) DoY decided to test security. One night my old man was on duty when DoY made one of his early hours security tests and after being successfully challenged by a copper the copper called it in as a false alarm whereupon the duty sergeant replied back along the lines of.....
“Is it that pr**k Andrew playing silly buggers again” without realising that DoY was standing right next to the copper……
DoY took the radio and replied back to the duty sergeant that it was indeed him but a long silence was the only reply he got back.
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Having "re-googled" it, I stand corrected! Teach me to assume, Thank You.
The assumption having been that DOC is heir to POW so should POW pre-decease HMQ then DOY becomes her heir!
What was that FS poster in 80s......"Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me!"
The assumption having been that DOC is heir to POW so should POW pre-decease HMQ then DOY becomes her heir!
What was that FS poster in 80s......"Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me!"
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I had two snowdrops as uncles but my dad always refer to snowballs with the emphasis on the second syllabub.
Maybe because, when apprehended in cairo c. 1941 by said police, he was discovered to have a huge bunch of pilfered grapes under his sun helmet. VERY difficult to explain, corporal.
Maybe because, when apprehended in cairo c. 1941 by said police, he was discovered to have a huge bunch of pilfered grapes under his sun helmet. VERY difficult to explain, corporal.
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Originally Posted by Langleybaston
I had two snowdrops as uncles but my dad always refer to snowballs with the emphasis on the second syllabub.
Maybe because, when apprehended in cairo c. 1941 by said police, he was discovered to have a huge bunch of pilfered grapes under his sun helmet. VERY difficult to explain, corporal.
Maybe because, when apprehended in cairo c. 1941 by said police, he was discovered to have a huge bunch of pilfered grapes under his sun helmet. VERY difficult to explain, corporal.
Eclectic at Post #11 - don't know who you are, and probably never will. You are clearly talking out of your a**e. You have not got a scooby re how the cops do their job - really.
Individuals like you really need to get a taste of the real world. How dare you say 'plod lie for a living'. I know this is not the ideal forum to discuss this - but you started it. When I joined 'plod' some 30 years ago I was told this by an Instructor: 'Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself' and I have cherished that comment ever since.
'Plod' like any other organisation, in this case RAF/FAA/AAC etc etc has people in it who give that organisation/service a bad name. They are the MINORITY Mr Eclectic. Wake up. If you have got a spine, which I doubt, PM me with a contact 'phone number and I will give you a call to discuss the error of your ways. Doubt you have though.
As far as Prince Andrew goes, at least 'plod' were awake. From what I hear, he is not the most pleasant individual to deal with.
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Individuals like you really need to get a taste of the real world. How dare you say 'plod lie for a living'. I know this is not the ideal forum to discuss this - but you started it. When I joined 'plod' some 30 years ago I was told this by an Instructor: 'Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself' and I have cherished that comment ever since.
'Plod' like any other organisation, in this case RAF/FAA/AAC etc etc has people in it who give that organisation/service a bad name. They are the MINORITY Mr Eclectic. Wake up. If you have got a spine, which I doubt, PM me with a contact 'phone number and I will give you a call to discuss the error of your ways. Doubt you have though.
As far as Prince Andrew goes, at least 'plod' were awake. From what I hear, he is not the most pleasant individual to deal with.
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I'd take a down to earth HRH The Queen, a decorated Prince Phillip,
William and Harry over a trumped up arrogant community organizer
who with zero experience thinks he knows best any day of the week.
I think a fair few US citizens would take William or Harry over him as well.
William and Harry over a trumped up arrogant community organizer
who with zero experience thinks he knows best any day of the week.
I think a fair few US citizens would take William or Harry over him as well.
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500N ... Consider yourself flogged at dawn ... NOT EVER HRH ... Her Majesty The Queen if you please ...
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NOT EVER HRH ... Her Majesty The Queen if you please ...
I'd take a down to earth HRH The Queen, a decorated Prince Phillip,
William and Harry over a trumped up arrogant community organizer
who with zero experience thinks he knows best any day of the week.
Which is why the British were booted so unceremoniously out, allowing the Americans to establish a Constitution and a democracy. You know, the whole voting thing.
I must admit, calling HRH "down to Earth" did make me chuckle though
William and Harry over a trumped up arrogant community organizer
who with zero experience thinks he knows best any day of the week.
Which is why the British were booted so unceremoniously out, allowing the Americans to establish a Constitution and a democracy. You know, the whole voting thing.
I must admit, calling HRH "down to Earth" did make me chuckle though
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She's done more hands on dirty work than Obama ever has or will !
He who gets scurried off to a bunker at the first sign of danger.
(Ref to the British monarchy didn't leave London just because
the bombs were falling)
She's done more hands on dirty work than Obama ever has or will !
He who gets scurried off to a bunker at the first sign of danger.
(Ref to the British monarchy didn't leave London just because
the bombs were falling)