Phantom Blooper ?
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Phantom Blooper ?
A first class recommendation from BEagle 
Had to wait until the Birthday present arrived this week
Whilst watching the second of the films ... "Phantom Pilot" ... towards the end, when "Chris" became operational on 54 Squadron, but before the Singapore detachment, this grabbed my attention ...
It would appear to show the front cockpit integral steps part extended in flight at low level. Was this a common occurrence on the F4 ? Would there have been any indication in the cockpit ?
Best ...
Coff.
Had to wait until the Birthday present arrived this week
BRITISH PHANTOM PILOT
For even more nostalgia, I recommend the phollowing DVD, which includes:
Intro: Includes lots of carrier shots of UK Phantoms phlying from the USS Saratoga.
Phantom Pilot (1973, 39 min): RAF phlying training via. Biggin Hill, Henlow, Church Phenton, Leeming, Valley and TWU to Coningsby.
Oversight (1976; 25 min): Made using real actors, a good account of sqn pressures on groundcrew and the resulting loss of a Phantom due to insecure wing pins.
Low Flying Training (1971; 23 min): Really ham stuff! It was replaced by a less awphul 'Low Level Navigation' philm a phew years later.
Phinally, a composite of various US Phantom clips entitled 'F-4 Phantom USA' made in 2008.
Available from all the usual sources - just enter the post title into your search engine.
Mercifully, only about 15 sec of clattercopters - and I don't think I spotted anyone wearing pongo pyjamas either....just blues, overalls or phlying suits.
For even more nostalgia, I recommend the phollowing DVD, which includes:
Intro: Includes lots of carrier shots of UK Phantoms phlying from the USS Saratoga.
Phantom Pilot (1973, 39 min): RAF phlying training via. Biggin Hill, Henlow, Church Phenton, Leeming, Valley and TWU to Coningsby.
Oversight (1976; 25 min): Made using real actors, a good account of sqn pressures on groundcrew and the resulting loss of a Phantom due to insecure wing pins.
Low Flying Training (1971; 23 min): Really ham stuff! It was replaced by a less awphul 'Low Level Navigation' philm a phew years later.
Phinally, a composite of various US Phantom clips entitled 'F-4 Phantom USA' made in 2008.
Available from all the usual sources - just enter the post title into your search engine.
Mercifully, only about 15 sec of clattercopters - and I don't think I spotted anyone wearing pongo pyjamas either....just blues, overalls or phlying suits.
It would appear to show the front cockpit integral steps part extended in flight at low level. Was this a common occurrence on the F4 ? Would there have been any indication in the cockpit ?
Best ...
Coff.
Last edited by CoffmanStarter; 8th Sep 2013 at 11:30.
Many moons ago the RAF Calendar featured a photo of a Hawk flying with the step extended. I wrote to Wg Cdr Spry and claimed a prize for observation and received a gracious reply but no prize!
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Thanks chaps
Also, same film, some strange footwear on show ...
They certainly don't look like my old black calf grabbers ... DMS in the front and white trainers in the rear if I'm not mistaken ... No ankle/calf blast protection
Also, same film, some strange footwear on show ...
They certainly don't look like my old black calf grabbers ... DMS in the front and white trainers in the rear if I'm not mistaken ... No ankle/calf blast protection
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One of the OCU Tooms at Coningsby was always dropping its Ladder on Take off - ended up with a big patch of Speed Tape over the kick in doors and the bit where the ladder stowed to stop it happening - weak catch spring or something.
Always had to have at least a Front Ladder knocking about on see in - though Intake / Wing / Sgt Fletcher sliding was always popular.
I think there was a speed limitation if it was down ??
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H
Always had to have at least a Front Ladder knocking about on see in - though Intake / Wing / Sgt Fletcher sliding was always popular.
I think there was a speed limitation if it was down ??
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H
I remember this one. Max speed with the ladder extended is 400 Kts!!! Not bad.
You would only know it wasn't locked in the up position it you checked the inticator on the left console/front cockpit, your No2 told you, you felt the vibrations (although you'd be unlikely to know what what was causing it) or when it bloke off and went down the left engine (which would only have been very slightly above 400 kts if it were fully extended).
I have come back from a sortie with a boarding ladder that had become partially extended (similar to the photo). I don't know at what point in the sortie it had become unlocked, but we had certainly been well over 400kts - because we could!
You would only know it wasn't locked in the up position it you checked the inticator on the left console/front cockpit, your No2 told you, you felt the vibrations (although you'd be unlikely to know what what was causing it) or when it bloke off and went down the left engine (which would only have been very slightly above 400 kts if it were fully extended).
I have come back from a sortie with a boarding ladder that had become partially extended (similar to the photo). I don't know at what point in the sortie it had become unlocked, but we had certainly been well over 400kts - because we could!
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bloke off and went down the left engine ...
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I remember the US display team photo of old that had the old lever to arm the seat and you can see it set at safe.
