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Old 5th Sep 2013, 17:22
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Ashdown didn't make it to even being a Major (in the Marines)?!! I laugh out loud at that. Yes, I agree with others, he is weak minded and on Syria a bloody fool.
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Ashdown didn't make it to even being a Major (in the Marines)?!! I laugh out loud at that.

Probably time to stop laughing then, observing that you are clearly unaware that, at the period in question, a Captain in the Royal Marines was equivalent in rank to a Major in the Army, when afloat, and would have held the local rank of Major if serving with the Army, and
was paid accordingly in both cases.

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Sir Ken Morrison - did his National Service and then took over from his father running a small family business that became Britain's fourth largest supermarket chain.
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 20:26
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4ma,

I'll raise you. Jack Cohen, aeroplane fabric doper doing National Service after WW1 gave the first two letters of his surname (CO) to an early business venture selling tea with a guy called TE Stockwell (he contributed his initials; 'TES').

Tesco eh? It'll never catch on.
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Hughie Greene, (qv) was also the first Director of the Psywar Department in Colonial Malaya c 1952 - and jolly effective he was, too. He understood the need for psyops material to be targetted at the individual and based on his (Maselow hierachy) needs. Hughie Greene used local ethnic chinese to devise the material - indeed, used former insurgents - and then distributed the material by a variety of elderly transport aircraft, as well as Austers and Harvards. Thousands of 'bandits' surrendered as a result of the well-coordinated psyops campaign - much more cost effective than bombing the sh!t out of the nearly-impenetrable jungle!
Though he delivered his most effective psychological warfare over the airwaves: Opportunity Knocks 1949-1978.
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Tesco eh? It'll never catch on.

Well it certainly did for Lord (Ian) MacLaurin too. After National Service in the Royal Air Force, Ian joined Tesco as a management trainee, became Managing Director in 1973, and served as Chairman from 1985 to 1997.

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My political views are, occasionally, not in accord with those of Lord Ashdown but his service record demands respect - well, it certainly does from me.
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Jack,

Thanks - I read the book about Jack Cohen and Tesco recently and although Ian MacLaurin was mentioned, I don't think his service background was. Tesco, Asda, John Lewis.. thats the High Street sown up then.

Belvoir Lettings plc was started by Mike Goddard who retired as a Wing Commander in 1995.
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I was watching an old Parkinson interview of David Niven the other day and he came up with this gem during his time in the army in Malta...

{context - ACR interview with the Colonel}

Colonel, "This officer knows less about the army that his friends in the navy"

Niven, "Thank you very much sir, very generous". Salutes, marches out.

Made I laugh

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Probably time to stop laughing then, observing that you are clearly unaware that, at the period in question, a Captain in the Royal Marines was equivalent in rank to a Major in the Army, when afloat, and would have held the local rank of Major if serving with the Army, and was paid accordingly in both cases
Eh? How does that work? Can I be a pretend Lt Col then?
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Yes, of course you can, Melchett! In fact, you can be pretend to be anything you like, although I must say that I never had you down as a walt!

Suggest you have a wee shoogle with Google and, to help you, the date the rules changed, and Royal Marines and Army officer ranks up to full Colonel came into line was 1 Jul 99.

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Bill Wyman, guitar plucker of the Strolling Bones. RAF National Serviceman 1955-57
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Making it in Civvy Street.

Jack - I don't dispute the fact, I just don't understand it!
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Further to Jack Cohen ex RAF/RFC..

BBC News - Tesco: How one supermarket came to dominate
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Union Jack wrote "Suggest you have a wee shoogle with Google and, to help you, the date the rules changed, and Royal Marines and Army officer ranks up to full Colonel came into line was 1 Jul 99."


I remember the day well, I used to deal regularly with a RM Officer at the time who was a Lt on the Monday, promoted to Capt on the Tuesday and then became a Major on the Wednesday (1 Jul 99) when RM aligned its ranks with the Army rather than the Navy!!

I'm sure that, under RN traditions, that there can only ever be one Capt on board so visting RM and Army officers are always referred to as Major when embarked!
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not so - in the great days of battlefleets many ships had more than one Captain (rank) on board

The person in command of any vessel may be referred to as "Captain" even if he /she is a Commander or even lower on the totem pole

One is a Rank the other a Role
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In the same vein, Billy Cotton(!)

Slightly different musical genre 'tis true, although one supposes 'big band' was as revolutionary at the time as was Hendrix's setting alight of guitars and regency-style silk shirts allied to frizzy-hair bear bunch maniacal on-stage persona.

(Oh, BC learnt to fly a 'plane, apparently.)

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Putin, ex Lt Col KGB to Obama's nemesis.
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