NEM And the rumour of a proposed new redundancy rule
JTO & Guest 22 - the aspect of PAS is that it is a defined pay spine and not an engagement structure, hence why it wasn't included in the revised engagement structures slides. As aircrew you should expect to be employed in accordance with the Flying Branch slides. So Flt Lt after OCU to EDP, promotion to Wg Cdr to 60.
PAS is an engagement structure that is squarely aimed at achieving an enhanced pension by trading SP Flying for an enhanced rate of basic pay. In addition, you have to be beyond your IPP/EDP to start on the scheme.
Anyway, others on the forum have commented that PAS did make it to the revised engagement slides on the later briefs.
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Jto - sorry mate but you are wrong. PAS is not an engagement structure at all, but a distinct pay spine. Many assume it is an engagement structure and it does tend to be used as such by desk officers, but it is not.
And it didn't make it onto the presentation at all. If you are on PAS now with a gauranteed service to 55 then you remain on that. If promoted to Sqn Ldr, aftre 1 apr 15, then to age 60 (correction to my previous post as meant Sqn Ldr, not Wg Cdr for flying branch). So overall this probably works better for flying branches
And it didn't make it onto the presentation at all. If you are on PAS now with a gauranteed service to 55 then you remain on that. If promoted to Sqn Ldr, aftre 1 apr 15, then to age 60 (correction to my previous post as meant Sqn Ldr, not Wg Cdr for flying branch). So overall this probably works better for flying branches
Hi Junket,
You seem more certain of everything than the rest of us, especially as we are told that this is a consultation exercise and you are telling some of us the reverse of what we were told in the Q&A.
I'm not sure what your angle is here but if you are really saying that PAS flt lts of the future only serve to EDP you are, in effect, telling us that PAS has ceased to exist for anyone without reserved rights.
So which is it - will PAS exist in the future or not?
You seem more certain of everything than the rest of us, especially as we are told that this is a consultation exercise and you are telling some of us the reverse of what we were told in the Q&A.
I'm not sure what your angle is here but if you are really saying that PAS flt lts of the future only serve to EDP you are, in effect, telling us that PAS has ceased to exist for anyone without reserved rights.
So which is it - will PAS exist in the future or not?
Retraining was mentioned in an earlier post as an option Manning might consider instead of giving someone the boot - how many pers were saved from the last rounds of redundancy and retrained? Not many.....
