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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 09:28
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These guys seem to be aware that someone in the UK has plans to buy the next airworthy AvSpecs Mosquito. Flying with a Mosquito-in Britain!! NZs other (to be) flying Mosquitos - Warbirdz Forum http://goactionstations.co.uk/upload...tober_2012.pdf
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These guys seem to be aware that someone in the UK has plans to buy the next airworthy AvSpecs Mosquito.
Except that thread was about a fancyful notion of buying Glyn Powells own T.43 project, which has noting to do with AVSpecs or their next next Mosquito project, which is in fact the ex-IWM T.3 that belongs to Paul Allen's FHC organisation.
Also, as mentioned, Glyn's project would like KA114, be very unlikely to get a CAA Permit due to Glyn using a modern glue and these a/c being essentially new-build not restorations.

In fact Duxfords TFC had that T.3 up for sale for quite a while BEFORE being bought by Paul Allen, and there was zero interest from anyone in the UK, and that was the single best candidate for getting a UK operated Mossie back in the sky, as it was almost 100% complete.
That chance has gone.

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Good programme, but a pity those brilliant Kiwis at AvSpecs were not given more credit for their work.
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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 11:10
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Agreed, good programme but can't for the life of me see how it justified the title. I know, I know, it doesn't have to, simply necessary media hype, etc. But is it really necessary? I suspect that any statement such as "The Plane that Saved Britain" is seen through at once by a prospective audience as mere hype and if anything deters rather than attracts.
I found the tantalisingly brief scenes of the construction techniques the most interesting. Was one of the "chippies" using a plane or merely a sanding block? Nice shot too of the entrance hatchway being cut out with a saw. Simples!
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Wow, what an excellent programme. I was astounded to hear that the crews trained to fly LL at 50-100ft and at speeds in excess of 400kts; they were absolutely magnificent! My hat doffed and a bow to their dedication and bravery. D
The documentary should be shown in our schools, as a lesson in history.
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Quote RedhillPhill, "The later versions with the twin turbo-supercharges .."
All service Merlins had a mechanicaly driven centrifugal supercharger. Some were multi-speed and could also be two-stage with intercooling.

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Originally Posted by Onceapilot
Quote RedhillPhill, "The later versions with the twin turbo-supercharges .."
All service Merlins had a mechanicaly driven centrifugal supercharger. Some were multi-speed and could also be two-stage with intercooling.

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Apologies. I realised later that I should have typed two stage rather than twin although I didn't realise that the 'charger was mechanically driven rather than exhaust driven. Oops!
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I cannot understand how it was landed on a carrier at 84 m.p.h. when the stalling speed was 110 m.p.h..
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Carrier fwd speed into wind deducted from aircraft speed, equals speed over the deck?

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Interesting programme but why does every documentary these days have to include some sort of 'personal journey' for the presenter?


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Wind over deck
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I have been through the thread and didnt see mention of the aircraft that was kept by British Aerospace at Broughton in the 80s and early 90s. I think Tony Craig used to fly it.

Which machine was that and what happened to it?
It crashed at Barton in 1996. See AAIB report already linked.

Yes, Tony Craig was one of the pilots who used to fly it. I had the privilege of flying with him during a display - in the good old days before such things were prohibited.

Interesting programme, except for (as AR1 says) the predictable but unnecessary footage of the crash and (as Tashengurt says) the time wasted on the tedious personal 'journey' of the presenter.


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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 18:14
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Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer
Yes, Tony Craig was one of the pilots who used to fly it. I had the privilege of flying with him during a display - in the good old days before such things were prohibited.


Tony was ex-23 Sqn Lightnings IIRC.
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Possibly the same programme on Ch47 at 20.00hrs this evening for those who may be interested.
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Yes - thats the old Gillow building I was thinking of. Better photo than the one I've seen (W&G in the photo description = Waring & Gillow, a later furniture shop on the same site)
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Sorry for getting your name wrong
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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 19:28
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don't worry - it sounds better. Maybe I should change it.....?
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Interesting programme but why does every documentary these days have to include some sort of 'personal journey' for the presenter?
Also noted; whilst surely Arthur has had much to overcome these past few years it did rather threaten to take over as the central tenet of the program.
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:01
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Just watched it on 4OD. I'd disagree with Willard, I found the references to his disability pitched at the right level. To please all of us 'purists' would have needed a 3hr+ slot!

Good show..enjoyed it.
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An excellent programme. One new piece of information for me (and has not yet been mentioned in the thread) was the fitment and use of the 57mm cannon. The comparison of shell size between the 57mm and 27mm(?) shells was quite illustrative of the sheer 'punch' of the bigger shell. As to the recoil... (although there was mention that the steel(?) frame holding the cannon did not suffer cracking etc).
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