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Old 14th Jul 2013, 18:05
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As from 1st April 2010 Helix will be known as Airseeker
http://www.official-documents.gov.uk...89/0489_ii.pdf

Drop the 'Air' and it would fit in with other types based at RAF Waddington.

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 18:29
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Back in the 60s (or was it the 70s?) the RN had a piece of kit with the official nickname "Shy Talk". I wonder how they got that past the censors?
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Originally Posted by RedhillPhil
Imagine serving on Gay Cavalier and having that on your cap band.........
Especially rocking up to the bar with an oppo from GAY BRUISER
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 13:16
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It will still be called Rivet Joint. The project is called Project Airseeker
Oh dear, and there was I thinking they'd changed the name to stop me calling it Loose Rivet.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 14:04
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Costing £1000,000,000 each. Capable of tracking 300 targets at one time and engaging 30 of them with surface to air missiles. And they call one of the new Type 45 Destroyers: DUNCAN
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 14:11
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I'm not fond of the designation Lightning 2
Nor me - that p****s me and a few others off!

This is a Lightning 2:


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Old 15th Jul 2013, 14:40
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I'm not fond of the designation Lightning 2 particularly - hence on this site at least Dave is popular. For an aircraft that hovers, sticking to a bird of prey is good but all the hovering ones (Kestrel, Harrier and Osprey) have already been used.
So has Lightning, hence the '2' they stuck on at the end.

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I'm not fond of the designation Lightning 2
Nor me - that p****s me and a few others off!

This is a Lightning 2:
It's the Lightning 2 for both the UK and US, as it's the second aircraft that has carried the name for each of them respectively. The RAF didn't operate the P-38, and the USAF didn't operate the English Electric variant. Is that not obvious?

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 15:23
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We did operate the p38.... But typically procurment made a horlicks by asking the yanks to remove the turbo chargers and fitting left and right handed props to avoid torque issues that were really non existent.

So rather than a lightining it became a low voltage energy efficent bulb...and we gave them back where they became trainers

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 15:35
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Yep, like I said, the RAF didn't operate the P-38.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 15:44
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melmothw,

Absolutely obvious, as is the fact that the first UK F-35 was ZM135, compared to the first Lightning F1 XM135.

I still don't particularly like it, but haven't heard it called anything much else yet. BEagle, your point is noted!
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 15:56
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I was told some time back by LM officials that Mustang 2 and Spitfire 2 were both considered (although the latter wouldn't really have worked from a US perspective), but both these names were eventually deemed sacrosanct and placed off-limits.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 16:02
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You'd probably have to pay Ford to use Mustang these days....

I am not a fan of re-using any name and sticking a 2 after it, but original names seem to be running out, hence the plethora of rubbish names on this thread!
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 16:10
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Originally Posted by X275
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It will still be called Rivet Joint. The project is called Project Airseeker
Oh dear, and there was I thinking they'd changed the name to stop me calling it Loose Rivet.
They should make a Naval version... The Golden Rivet.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 16:29
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There is only one English Electric 'Bryant & May' Lightning

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 16:49
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Air Seeker sounds like someone who has dived too deep
Is this by any chance connected with Beaver?

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Techie - I'm sure AOC 2 Grp would be most upset at the suggestion of sending his newest old toy to sea! Seeker would fit with the other S models at Waddo as noted above.

No-one adds the 2 to Typhoon so I expect the 2 to drop off Lightning when it gets to Marham.

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 17:32
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No-one adds the 2 to Typhoon so I expect the 2 to drop off Lightning when it
gets to Marham.
I wouldn't count on it. The only reason there is no Typhoon 2 is because one (possibly two) of the partner nations has a very 'chequered' history with the Typhoon 1, and it was deemed expedient to drop the '2' out of tact.

Having said that, will be interesting to see how the Japanese take to the Lightning 2 moniker....(although I guess they can say they're following the English Electric name-lineage).

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The Germans, Italians, Spanish and French all operated the Me Bf 108 Taifun in the 1940s, so Typhoon 2 would have fitted nicely, though the role is slightly different. The RAF had a slack handful as well, apparently.

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 19:26
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The Germans, Italians, Spanish and French all operated the Me Bf 108 Taifun
in the 1940s, so Typhoon 2 would have fitted nicely, though the role is slightly
different. The RAF had a slack handful as well, apparently.
I didn't know that orgASMic, so yes I suppose that Typhoon 2 would have fitted in that context. My understanding is that the Germans had no say over the Typhoon name, and were happily calling their aircraft the EF2000 until they were hit with a UK-led fait accompli. Initially, they were none too happy and were having none of it, but pragmatism (EF2000 was going to sound dated very quickly) and an acceptance that it is a pretty decent name won through.
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