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Old 11th Jun 2013, 15:04
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And the Typhoon's so good they had to name it twice

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Old 11th Jun 2013, 15:13
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So, when do we see UAV's doing a flying display?
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 15:14
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The Vulcan is displaying in my home town on Saturday.

Based on the Cosford display, does anyone think I should travel a long way and sit on the beach just to see a very quiet fly-by?

Is it worth it?
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 15:16
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So, when do we see UAV's doing a flying display?
Given recent revelations, they are probably already doing an 'inverse' flying display - they are watching your antics!
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 15:20
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UAV 10 to Zircon flight:

"Zircon 7, put that soda down - we're flying down the Mall !"
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What are the odds of the tri* being replaced by an african registered DC8 at the last minute?
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 17:24
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On costs in different countries, it is all down to national policies. In the UK the Treasury screws the MOD so the MOD screws the station and everything is costed, even the Red's smoke. Skilful accounting is no longer possible.

I believe only the BIG BoB shows get any MOD funding by allocation of assets, other shows have to pay their way hence the abundance of tat stalls.

Car parking problems probably stem from the reduced number of air shows which will increase the numbers visiting the 'big' shows.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 22:15
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Anyone care to work out the combined ages of the aircraft in November 4's picture?

Even without the WW2 aircraft you could reasonably describe it as The Antiques Air Show
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 00:02
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PP - at least the Tri* made it to the rehearsal today...
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 10:02
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I gave up on Farnbro' & Paris years ago (unless I got an invite to a Chalet of course...)

Same aircraft year in, year out, horrible access, paying punters treat like dogs or worse, high cost..... better to go to the smaller shows - at least you might enjoy yourself
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 10:18
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Ah yes, i forgot. The replacement would turn up 2 days later!
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 11:20
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Given that the AirTanker PFI 'deal' is costing the RAF £1.2M per day, which works out at £50K per hour or £833 per minute, for each and every minute of the next 23 years, it is hardly surprising that the RAF has so few aircraft these days.....

£10B+ over 24 years and you don't even get to keep the aircraft at the end of that time......
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 11:39
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TTN, quite. I did some reckoning. The venerable Varsity was only 9 when I went through training and the Meteor a little younger. The Hastings was maybe 12. With the Vulcan the paint was still wet as we did the acceptance air test on one. The Dominie was another wet paint job. The F4 was also brand new and the Nimrod after that barely 4 with some still with wet paint. Even the Lancaster was only 25 when I was on it. The Shack was longer in the tooth 24 followed by the E3, another wet paint job.

Now?
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 13:59
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PP- and able to do only half the task................
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Just released ...

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Old 13th Jun 2013, 13:52
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So no 'receivers' on the current, productive fleet of tankers and 4 on the very, very expensive, very, very late, future tanker (which only has a clearance to tank one type)? More spin than a fully erect AH!!
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Old 13th Jun 2013, 15:41
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So no 'receivers' on the current, productive fleet of tankers and 4 on the very, very expensive, very, very late, future tanker (which only has a clearance to tank one type)?
Voyager now has 'operational' clearance to refuel Typhoon, but doesn't have clearance to use the centreline hose yet.

But as for the Mission System....

"Hecho en España" = "¡no funciona!"

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It doesn't look as if they have got the Puma Mk2 into gear yet.
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Old 13th Jun 2013, 16:04
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No Shadow, Sentinel or even a contribution from the largest ME fleet - C130.
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Old 13th Jun 2013, 16:23
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Or SK, Grey Merlin, Lynx (all flavours) or Apache for that matter.
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