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And you thought our defence procurement was bad? Spanish practices ...
And you thought our defence procurement was bad?
...at least 75 tons overweight, an excess that could compromise its ability to surface after submerging.
'...an excess that means it will sink' is surely more accurate?It's almost as if 't Bungling Baron had a hand in the design....
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I trust Navantia haven't made similar "miscalculations" in the construction of the hulls of our two new LHD's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Canberra_(LHD_02)
http://www.news.com.au/technology/ex...-1226639639652
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Canberra_(LHD_02)
http://www.news.com.au/technology/ex...-1226639639652
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I trust Navantia haven't made similar "miscalculations" in the construction of the hulls of our two new LHD's. 
I am not a Grammar Nazi but I feel that instead of the single word 'trust' you might add 'devoutly hope!'
I am not a Grammar Nazi but I feel that instead of the single word 'trust' you might add 'devoutly hope!'
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Surely nailing an extension into it will also add weight, I presume you will have to nail in two, one in front and one aft of the coning tower to maintain the C of G. Hope they get the figures right the next time around 
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I was deeply concerned about seeing our latest RAN LHD hull arrive on a barge! 
- but it appears that it does actually float. At least, it does, until they get all the superstructure welded into place - and then, it will probably turn turtle!!
I'm reminded of a certain Italian shipbuilder, around 1907, who launched a new ship down the slipway with great fanfare. The hull slid into the water with a splash - and promptly turned turtle, to their eternal embarrassment!!
- but it appears that it does actually float. At least, it does, until they get all the superstructure welded into place - and then, it will probably turn turtle!! I'm reminded of a certain Italian shipbuilder, around 1907, who launched a new ship down the slipway with great fanfare. The hull slid into the water with a splash - and promptly turned turtle, to their eternal embarrassment!!
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I was deeply concerned about seeing our latest RAN LHD hull arrive on a barge! - but it appears that it does actually float. At least, it does, until they get all the superstructure welded into place - and then, it will probably turn turtle!!
I'm reminded of a certain Italian shipbuilder, around 1907, who launched a new ship down the slipway with great fanfare. The hull slid into the water with a splash - and promptly turned turtle, to their eternal embarrassment!!
I'm reminded of a certain Italian shipbuilder, around 1907, who launched a new ship down the slipway with great fanfare. The hull slid into the water with a splash - and promptly turned turtle, to their eternal embarrassment!!
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Well, before we crow too much let's remember our very own R101 which had exactly the same problem - it wouldn't fly.
Solution? Graft an extension into the hull to add extra buoyancy...
Perhaps it's instructive that the private industry built R100 (the Capitalist airship) performed as predicted and on cost whereas the government (mis)managed R101 (the Socialist airship) was a complete dogs dinner from beginning to it's wretched end.
Solution? Graft an extension into the hull to add extra buoyancy...
Perhaps it's instructive that the private industry built R100 (the Capitalist airship) performed as predicted and on cost whereas the government (mis)managed R101 (the Socialist airship) was a complete dogs dinner from beginning to it's wretched end.
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Nut, I think that is half the problem. Now they just need another one to correct the CofG. As long as they weld the dogs bollocks on at the right end.
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They could always buy those super quiet diesel jobs we sold to Canada without ever using them, I believe they would probably pay the Spanish to take them away, they haven't had a lot of success with them.
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