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Aberdeen to Leeds - 92 year old veteran needs a passport

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Old 11th Apr 2013, 14:38
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I suspect that St Mawgan's Stn Cdr was using a MOD Form 90 not a RAF F1250!!

Another piece of jointery not thought through properly.....the RAF F1250 could be used as official ID since it had a 'tamper proof' signature as well as a photo.......whereas the MOD F90 doesn't and therefore doesn't have to be accepted!!
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 14:38
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From the BBC link

The squadron was based at RAF Yeadon, which was on the site of the current airport.
Silly question.

Isn't this the wrong way round?

'Leeds/Bradford Airport is built on the site of the former RAF Yeadon, where the squadron was based.'

Surely is the correct terminology?
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 17:19
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Being a Yorkshireman from the Leeds area. I still call it Yeadon Airport. Non of this PC Leeds / Bradford b**locks.

Its not in Leeds and its not in Bradford
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I've always known LBA as the "garden of Yeadon," one very venerable controller used that term when answering the 'phone.
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There is this creaping 'requirement' to have a passport, in part driven by the positive ID requirements of the Proceeds of Crimes Act 2003. Banks and other institutions have interpreted this need to ID customers by passport solely as 'the law'. A few years ago I had an argument with a well-known bank about this requirement. We were overseas and taking out a mortgage in Sterling with our existing bank for a house in Wootton Bassett, as it happened. The bank demanded that we 'surrendered' our passports as proof of ID to ensure that we weren't money-laundering. I refused to hand over my passport - only Police and Immigration officials can request it. I won my argument, especially when I obtained the recording of the calls from the bank which were of a threatening nature. The bank also paid me a substantial ex-gratia payment for 'making it up as they went along'.

Banks only need to be satisfied of the bone fides of the customer. Bearing in mind we had been their customer for 10 years at that point, I felt that they had demonstrated due diligence.

Fast forward a couple of years and we went to sell said house and the Estate agent asked for copies of our passports. I refused and gave her a copy of my council tax bill instead. This, apparently, was most irregular and the agency, part of a well-known chain, started to get rather difficult and quoted the 'law' about having to present a passport. Needless to say I won the argument and the firm agreed to half their commission, as I had caught them out for being thoroughly unprofessional.

In sum, unless you intend to travel to exotic climes, eg France, there is no requirement for British Subjects to have a passport, moreover no requirement to hand it over to those unauthorised to receive it.

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 21:42
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Vas ist los? Show me your paperz, pleas!


Meanwhile, here in the Untied Stakes, we are starting to issue medical ID cards and drivers' licenses to "undocumented immigrants"... people the government knows entered the country in blatant and disdainful violation of immigration laws, and therefore are already criminals.

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 21:48
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You may be thinking of "Ihre Papieren, bitte" spoken by a shifty-looking bloke in a black Fedora and leather trenchcoat.
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Old 13th Apr 2013, 10:43
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Now if we had a national ID card system in place......
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Old 13th Apr 2013, 14:46
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Now if we had a national ID card system in place......
Don't even go there. A few years ago I was helping with remedial reading at the local primary. I already had CRB clearance for another volunteer post, which initially was accepted. However, "the powers" needed another one. I filled in the forms and the School Secretary had sight of my passport, birth certificate and driving licence, all of which she confirmed as valid. The County Education Authority then wanted hard copies of all three. Since I wasn't going to give copies of those documents to anybody, the school lost a volunteer.

My daughter was going to take her son and two friends to an event at another school some two miles away (can some mums help with transport please?), and was asked to provide a copy of her passport. The school authorities and the other mums were surprised when she refused with the words "we're all walking blindfolded into a Police State."

End of rant.....
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Old 13th Apr 2013, 16:42
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1978 RAF Uxbridge Sainsburys in the High Street, paying by cheque for a sum of approx £60 with cheque card. 'You must have some other identification.' I offer F1250 and MOD pass. 'Oh, that's no good, haven't you something with your address on it, like library ticket?'
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Old 13th Apr 2013, 21:17
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The one that really annoys me is buying something trivial from a chain store (Tandy used to do this all of the time) and at the checkout they ask for your address. 'Just for our records'. In other words so they can bombard you with crap. I always refused but have seen people in front of me in the queue give it without question. Why do people do that?

I used to say to the checkout operator that if she gave me her name and address she could have mine. Seemed fair to me.
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