F/A-18F-18 Incident, Persian Gulf, Monday 08th April
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F/A-18F Incident, Persian Gulf, Monday 08th April
An F/A -18F, operating from the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, crashed in to the North Arabia sea yesterday at approximately 12:20 hrs local time.
Both crew members (VFA-103) of the fighter ejected from the jet and were rescued safely.
I have read that there was an engine failure.
Both crew members (VFA-103) of the fighter ejected from the jet and were rescued safely.
I have read that there was an engine failure.
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Doesn't it have 2 engines? 
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Lonewolf you should know better. There would be many parts of the flight envelope where one engine isn't enough.
There would be many parts of the flight envelope where one engine isn't enough.
I suspect something more to this report
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Arm out the window,
The definition of what is an incident and what is an accident vary from country to country. The NTSB would probably define what happened as an accident, whereas in Europe that would not necessarily be the case. Also remember that there are different levels of incidents and accidents (e.g. incident and major incident; or accident and fatal accident).
Jeez, if that's an incident, what would you call an accident?
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oh so hurtful!
Comments on ME newslink.....childish and laughable but shows their view of "us"...
Truth
Apr 9, 2013 10:29 PM
Why is that these supper jets drop from the sky in ME, two top new jet purchasd by Saudi at the cost of 60 millions Plus another 60 million bribe Just droped to ground in saudi arabia,knowing that saudi pilots are not allowed to fly them. and now another one droped in P.golf. Can we call it magic and mystory, or engine failure?
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eireanneach
Apr 9, 2013 8:53 PM
this happens and they are only PRACTICING!! no-brainers,they are like robots,when a problem arises,abandon ship. buy 1 get 1 free!! their army is the same,they are controlled from afar. they have cameras mounted on their helmits to issue on the spot orders,kill,kill,kill. they are MORONS,not marines. they operate exactly as the nazi ss criminals did in the last centaury. they murder unarmed men and women and children,with impunity,and they do this with this knowledge in mind. they opperate illegal prisons where they torture and abuse prisoners. REAL military men do NOT act in this manner.
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Lol. Engine failure!
Apr 9, 2013 8:43 PM
It was Iranian. Electronic jammers that brought this jet down. Look at our power ,its not yet fully reviled . Bravo Iranian fighters god is with you .
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Sweden
Apr 9, 2013 7:43 PM
The engine failure....I love it. There are more to come
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E warfare
Apr 9, 2013 6:46 PM
E warfar or just a crash
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boboyz
Apr 9, 2013 6:16 PM
hoping the ejecting seat dosent work,,crash together,banji jumping man,fun.
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Westy
Apr 9, 2013 9:0 AM
The F/A-18F Super Hornet is probably the best fighter jet that the US produces.
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truthin reply to Westy
4/9/2013 6:48:00 PM
its a close contest between the F-22 Raptor and the super hornet, the raptor is designed mainly for air to air, and the hornet can fill both ground and air attack roles, so i have to agree, the hornet is probably better for middle east deployment since it can take out enemies in the sky and on the ground
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flyer19999in reply to Westy
4/9/2013 11:13:56 AM
Just before the Iraq-Kuwait war Iraq could have captured A few F/A-18F fighters if they had waited until there delivered.k
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Iranian In Australiain reply to Westy
4/9/2013 10:48:13 AM
You should get your facts right, and have at least SOME knowledge of military hardware before making such comment. FA-18, super or otherwise, is inferior to most Russian planes and because it is fly-by-wire its Navy pilots are more like computer programers than fighter pilots.
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KB
Apr 9, 2013 1:41 AM
One devil dead more please.
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John Scully
Apr 9, 2013 12:44 AM
One less to shoot down
Apr 9, 2013 10:29 PM
Why is that these supper jets drop from the sky in ME, two top new jet purchasd by Saudi at the cost of 60 millions Plus another 60 million bribe Just droped to ground in saudi arabia,knowing that saudi pilots are not allowed to fly them. and now another one droped in P.golf. Can we call it magic and mystory, or engine failure?
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eireanneach
Apr 9, 2013 8:53 PM
this happens and they are only PRACTICING!! no-brainers,they are like robots,when a problem arises,abandon ship. buy 1 get 1 free!! their army is the same,they are controlled from afar. they have cameras mounted on their helmits to issue on the spot orders,kill,kill,kill. they are MORONS,not marines. they operate exactly as the nazi ss criminals did in the last centaury. they murder unarmed men and women and children,with impunity,and they do this with this knowledge in mind. they opperate illegal prisons where they torture and abuse prisoners. REAL military men do NOT act in this manner.
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Lol. Engine failure!
Apr 9, 2013 8:43 PM
It was Iranian. Electronic jammers that brought this jet down. Look at our power ,its not yet fully reviled . Bravo Iranian fighters god is with you .
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Sweden
Apr 9, 2013 7:43 PM
The engine failure....I love it. There are more to come
Click to Rate ReplyRating5
E warfare
Apr 9, 2013 6:46 PM
E warfar or just a crash
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boboyz
Apr 9, 2013 6:16 PM
hoping the ejecting seat dosent work,,crash together,banji jumping man,fun.
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Westy
Apr 9, 2013 9:0 AM
The F/A-18F Super Hornet is probably the best fighter jet that the US produces.
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truthin reply to Westy
4/9/2013 6:48:00 PM
its a close contest between the F-22 Raptor and the super hornet, the raptor is designed mainly for air to air, and the hornet can fill both ground and air attack roles, so i have to agree, the hornet is probably better for middle east deployment since it can take out enemies in the sky and on the ground
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flyer19999in reply to Westy
4/9/2013 11:13:56 AM
Just before the Iraq-Kuwait war Iraq could have captured A few F/A-18F fighters if they had waited until there delivered.k
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Iranian In Australiain reply to Westy
4/9/2013 10:48:13 AM
You should get your facts right, and have at least SOME knowledge of military hardware before making such comment. FA-18, super or otherwise, is inferior to most Russian planes and because it is fly-by-wire its Navy pilots are more like computer programers than fighter pilots.
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KB
Apr 9, 2013 1:41 AM
One devil dead more please.
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John Scully
Apr 9, 2013 12:44 AM
One less to shoot down
There would be many parts of the flight envelope where one engine isn't enough.
My reading of the post about the Jaguar suggested that the Jag could not climb if it lost an engine?
F/A-18F-18 Incident, Persian Gulf, Monday 08th April
Trim Stab.
I shall elaborate slightly on what I said for clarification. At Thumrait (1800' amsl) in 40+ degrees C there was a single engine dead zone after take off (even after jettisoning stores) until enough flying speed had been attained. Bearing in mind the Omanis also operated the Jag there was sufficient pressure on us I guess to participate. We would almost certainly not have got the dispensation to operate like that from a civvy airfield near built up areas.
Anyway back to the thread. Glad they got out OK.
BV
I shall elaborate slightly on what I said for clarification. At Thumrait (1800' amsl) in 40+ degrees C there was a single engine dead zone after take off (even after jettisoning stores) until enough flying speed had been attained. Bearing in mind the Omanis also operated the Jag there was sufficient pressure on us I guess to participate. We would almost certainly not have got the dispensation to operate like that from a civvy airfield near built up areas.
Anyway back to the thread. Glad they got out OK.
BV
Pontius, we'll see what comes out in due course.
Engine failure in close, or off the cat, both might result in underpowered flight close to the sea.
Engine failure in close, or off the cat, both might result in underpowered flight close to the sea.
Alfred, have you flown Hornets? (You may be right, I don't actually know)
I know someone who has.
I'll ask her.
I know someone who has.
I'll ask her.
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'alfred_the_great' USN Hornets of both varieties have made single engine emergency landings aboard CVNs - depending upon circumstances these single engine emergencies might also BINGO instead. Plenty of stories in USN Safety Magazine APPROACH about them. This Google Search string will find a few:
Hornet Single Engine Approach CVN APPROACH Magazine
Onesuch story:
The Five Wet Flameout By LCdr. Mike Kinter [APPROACH May/June 2010]
"A Hornet with a fuel leak on short final—time for NATOPS knowledge and procedures." page 29
http://www.public.navy.mil/navsafece...h/MayJun10.pdf (2mb)
"...As I placed the landing-gear handle down, flap switch to full, and slowed to on-speed, I immediately was greeted by the glorious voice of “Bitching Betty,” with words that I only had heard in the simulator: “Engine left! Engine left!”
I felt the airplane decelerate and yaw to the left and immediately went to afterburner on the starboard engine. After I had thrown out a few choice words, I immediately told approach, “211 is single-engine at six miles.”
I configured the aircraft to half flaps and started talking to the rep on aux radio. I told him I was going to keep it coming and land the aircraft, because I had no idea of the extent of the fuel leak and wanted to get the plane on deck. He offered some soothing words, “Take a deep breath, calm down, and bring it aboard!”
I was amazed how much power was required to keep a five wet on-speed at max trap. Coming down the chute, I was riding the military stop, promising I never again would miss another day of church. I settled into the 2-wire and came to a stop, only to receive three “lights on deck” calls before I came out of my minicoma and shut them off. After landing, I smelled fuel and shut down the starboard engine...."
Hornet Single Engine Approach CVN APPROACH Magazine
Onesuch story:
The Five Wet Flameout By LCdr. Mike Kinter [APPROACH May/June 2010]
"A Hornet with a fuel leak on short final—time for NATOPS knowledge and procedures." page 29
http://www.public.navy.mil/navsafece...h/MayJun10.pdf (2mb)
"...As I placed the landing-gear handle down, flap switch to full, and slowed to on-speed, I immediately was greeted by the glorious voice of “Bitching Betty,” with words that I only had heard in the simulator: “Engine left! Engine left!”
I felt the airplane decelerate and yaw to the left and immediately went to afterburner on the starboard engine. After I had thrown out a few choice words, I immediately told approach, “211 is single-engine at six miles.”
I configured the aircraft to half flaps and started talking to the rep on aux radio. I told him I was going to keep it coming and land the aircraft, because I had no idea of the extent of the fuel leak and wanted to get the plane on deck. He offered some soothing words, “Take a deep breath, calm down, and bring it aboard!”
I was amazed how much power was required to keep a five wet on-speed at max trap. Coming down the chute, I was riding the military stop, promising I never again would miss another day of church. I settled into the 2-wire and came to a stop, only to receive three “lights on deck” calls before I came out of my minicoma and shut them off. After landing, I smelled fuel and shut down the starboard engine...."
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Yep, they regularly practice single engine carrier approaches to the field by day and by night but (and I am a little out of date) they do not practice single engine approaches to the actual Carrier. They do lots of sim training too but if possible they will divert to a proper runway.
Chucking away an aircraft and risking an ejection with a serviceable engine would be silly.
Chucking away an aircraft and risking an ejection with a serviceable engine would be silly.