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Nutloose,
As a very young lad I was at RAF Woodvale in 1957 and saw the landing of the last operational flight of an RAF Spitfire (a PRMk19 of the the THUM flight). I have a very grainy 8mm film of the event that my Dad took with his personal cine camera.
I can't believe it's really that long ago!
As a very young lad I was at RAF Woodvale in 1957 and saw the landing of the last operational flight of an RAF Spitfire (a PRMk19 of the the THUM flight). I have a very grainy 8mm film of the event that my Dad took with his personal cine camera.
I can't believe it's really that long ago!
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LJ ... I'd suggest you trade your wings for an FCA in civvy street ... you clearly have the aptitude ... but you'll need to tone down your sparkling personality to be a true Accountant 
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You would have to get it scanned to digital, and gawd knows the cost of that, do you know what aircraft is on it, is it PS895 as that did the last operational Spit flight in the RAF, odd one for the RAF to then dispose off... I actually have some of the photos of them from that era on my other PC.
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I can confirm that RAF Officer pilots get the same rate of flying pay as Army SNCO/WO pilots. There are no RAF SNCO/WO pilots to compare as they are all WSOps of some form or other - they get a different rate of flying pay as do RAF Officer WSOs on enhanced rate.
LJ
PS I still maintain there is no need for SNCO\WO pilots in the RAF both financially or career wise. Furthermore, why buck the trend extant within the Royal Navy, USAF, USN, RCAF, RNzAF, RNoAF, French AF, Lufwaffe, ITAF, etc...etc...?
I can confirm that RAF Officer pilots get the same rate of flying pay as Army SNCO/WO pilots. There are no RAF SNCO/WO pilots to compare as they are all WSOps of some form or other - they get a different rate of flying pay as do RAF Officer WSOs on enhanced rate.
LJ
PS I still maintain there is no need for SNCO\WO pilots in the RAF both financially or career wise. Furthermore, why buck the trend extant within the Royal Navy, USAF, USN, RCAF, RNzAF, RNoAF, French AF, Lufwaffe, ITAF, etc...etc...?
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Fill your boots, old chum Armed Forces Pension and Annual Allowance Calculator (AFPAAC)
However, for the FS after 22 years on AFPS05:
£40785 lump sum on retirement (EDP)
£7705 immediate pension (EDP)
£10196 at age 55 (EDP)
£13595 at age 65 (preserved pension)
£40785 lump sum at age 65
For the Flt Lt it is:
£42519 lump sum on retirement (EDP)
£8031 immediate pension (EDP)
£10630 at age 55 (EDP)
£14173 at age 65 (preserved pension)
£42519 lump sum at age 65
Therefore, very small amounts again. Not worth the effort to change all the paperwork, training systems and intake numbers.
LJ
PS. This set of figures took only 5 minutes of my sad lonely life!
Fill your boots, old chum Armed Forces Pension and Annual Allowance Calculator (AFPAAC)
However, for the FS after 22 years on AFPS05:
£40785 lump sum on retirement (EDP)
£7705 immediate pension (EDP)
£10196 at age 55 (EDP)
£13595 at age 65 (preserved pension)
£40785 lump sum at age 65
For the Flt Lt it is:
£42519 lump sum on retirement (EDP)
£8031 immediate pension (EDP)
£10630 at age 55 (EDP)
£14173 at age 65 (preserved pension)
£42519 lump sum at age 65
Therefore, very small amounts again. Not worth the effort to change all the paperwork, training systems and intake numbers.
LJ
PS. This set of figures took only 5 minutes of my sad lonely life!
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LJ.
Why thank you: so the only real saving would be in the reduced amount of mess furniture burned during APCs and at dining-in nights...
On a more serious note I wonder when the peace dividend from us 'winning' the Cold War will materialise; 24 years later the world looks more dangerous than ever and the military options for tackling the problems more expensive. Perhaps some party or other might propose in their next draft manifesto that anybody with an unused council house garage must invade North Korea (I was thinking of the Monster Raving Loony Party but Blair said Labour needed some policy alternatives....)
LE
Why thank you: so the only real saving would be in the reduced amount of mess furniture burned during APCs and at dining-in nights...
On a more serious note I wonder when the peace dividend from us 'winning' the Cold War will materialise; 24 years later the world looks more dangerous than ever and the military options for tackling the problems more expensive. Perhaps some party or other might propose in their next draft manifesto that anybody with an unused council house garage must invade North Korea (I was thinking of the Monster Raving Loony Party but Blair said Labour needed some policy alternatives....)
LE
LE
Quite so, although any officer worth their salt pays for their 'high jinx'!
Anyway, this would be offset by the fact that NCA seem to have a knack of claiming for everything as they know every allowance regulation ever introduced!
We could make savings on the stocks of Oxford Pattern Shoes, Officer's No 1 hats with the slightly more expensive cap badge and reduction in ceremonial sword holdings...
Yes, I was around for "Options For Change" and the so called "Peace Dividend". I was looking forward to a week of TACEVAL every year with the odd MINEVAL, lots of NATO flying around Europe drinking their beer and spending about 3 months cumulative total away a year. That expectation was shattered with "Options For Change" and my boots were getting more and more sandy each year!
'More with less' became the SOP...
LJ
Quite so, although any officer worth their salt pays for their 'high jinx'!
Anyway, this would be offset by the fact that NCA seem to have a knack of claiming for everything as they know every allowance regulation ever introduced!
We could make savings on the stocks of Oxford Pattern Shoes, Officer's No 1 hats with the slightly more expensive cap badge and reduction in ceremonial sword holdings...
Yes, I was around for "Options For Change" and the so called "Peace Dividend". I was looking forward to a week of TACEVAL every year with the odd MINEVAL, lots of NATO flying around Europe drinking their beer and spending about 3 months cumulative total away a year. That expectation was shattered with "Options For Change" and my boots were getting more and more sandy each year!
'More with less' became the SOP...
LJ
As a very young lad I was at RAF Woodvale in 1957 and saw the landing of the last operational flight of an RAF Spitfire (a PRMk19 of the the THUM flight).
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Yep they carried on at Woodvale on the THUM flight doing temp measurements etc at different height levels, though the probably didnt count that as operations as it would be second line duties?. THUM was a civilian unit, though i think the crews were Military, they then went to join the BBMF, however on departure PS853 the RR Spit went onto its nose on departure, so was delayed a few days, hence did the last flight prior to joining the fledgling BBMF.
Fascinating read
T.H.U.M Flight? - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums
Fascinating read
T.H.U.M Flight? - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums
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