Typhoon Tranche 2 Dropping Paveway
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It is available to the troops - it is providing them with a favourable air situation so they can go about their work unmolested by enemy fighters 
Oh, you meant as a CAS platform. No. That's what the GR4 and MQ9 are for.
Oh, you meant as a CAS platform. No. That's what the GR4 and MQ9 are for.
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From the linked article:
ISTR that some of the last Paveway deliveries by 6 Sqn Jags were live PW3s on Ex RED FLAG in which the fuses had been left at the bomb dump's default setting (which assumed retarded rather than freefall delivery) and hence the - now dud - PW3 buried themselves a looooooonnnnng way into the Nevada desert! 
Good to see that the latest incarnation of the Flying Can-openers at least started by dropping intentional inerts! Although I hardly think that the successful release of an obsolescent LGB (having no data exchange requirement with the host aircraft) should be a cause for fanfare on a 4.5th-gen £bn project...
The last time 6 Squadron as a whole conducted end-to-end, air to surface weapons training would have been when the Squadron was flying Jaguars, so this is a fitting return to bombing for the "Flying Can-Openers".
Good to see that the latest incarnation of the Flying Can-openers at least started by dropping intentional inerts! Although I hardly think that the successful release of an obsolescent LGB (having no data exchange requirement with the host aircraft) should be a cause for fanfare on a 4.5th-gen £bn project...
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Massive tangent.
Anyone know what the ground roll of a Jag with a PW3 would have been at Nellis? I saw one launch out of Thumrait (MC 05) once with a hefty load in very hot weather. The phrase 'Brave Chap' didn't really do the spectacle justice.
I was at HW for the 'retard PW' witch hunt, which was around the same time as the 'Oman PW3' witch hunt. Both of which were over shadowed by the 'I won't flinch, Kandahar' witch hunt.
I can't remember off the top of my head how many witches were caught in the end. I remember not trying very hard mind.
Anyone know what the ground roll of a Jag with a PW3 would have been at Nellis? I saw one launch out of Thumrait (MC 05) once with a hefty load in very hot weather. The phrase 'Brave Chap' didn't really do the spectacle justice.
I was at HW for the 'retard PW' witch hunt, which was around the same time as the 'Oman PW3' witch hunt. Both of which were over shadowed by the 'I won't flinch, Kandahar' witch hunt.
I can't remember off the top of my head how many witches were caught in the end. I remember not trying very hard mind.
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Typhoon Tranche 2 Dropping Paveway
Easystreet.
I can quite categorically say with absolute certainty that it was not 6 Sqn who commuted that heinous crime. It was the second best Jaguar Sqn to be left at the end of the aircraft's life.
Please get your facts straight before smearing the good name of the Flying Canopeners.
BV
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I can quite categorically say with absolute certainty that it was not 6 Sqn who commuted that heinous crime. It was the second best Jaguar Sqn to be left at the end of the aircraft's life.
Please get your facts straight before smearing the good name of the Flying Canopeners.
BV
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Typhoon Tranche 2 Dropping Paveway
Orca
That may well have been me you saw getting airborne on my first ever heavy weapon drop. I can't remember the exact ground run but I can tell you that it took 160 track miles to climb to my 14000' drop height (dry power mind). I believe my exact words when i pickled and watched the beast fly were something along the lines of "f@$k yeah!". We also had dispensation to operate with a single engine dead zone.
The PW3 witch hunt at Magic carpet was attributable to the other single seat attack aircraft of the day. The one that didn't know if it wanted to be a jet or a helicopter
BV
That may well have been me you saw getting airborne on my first ever heavy weapon drop. I can't remember the exact ground run but I can tell you that it took 160 track miles to climb to my 14000' drop height (dry power mind). I believe my exact words when i pickled and watched the beast fly were something along the lines of "f@$k yeah!". We also had dispensation to operate with a single engine dead zone.
The PW3 witch hunt at Magic carpet was attributable to the other single seat attack aircraft of the day. The one that didn't know if it wanted to be a jet or a helicopter
BV
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I recall it well. (Although I flew in MC 05 - the PW3 incident happened later - MC06 from memory). I have seen the photo the JTAC took of the splash. He and his team were in a sangar - well within the safety trace - because it had a hand written sign saying 'PW3 shelter' on it.
Apparently the 'bang' was quite 'significant'.
Apparently the 'bang' was quite 'significant'.
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Errr, P2 and not EP2 – why on Earth would you do that?
Wasn't the plan supposed to be that the T2s would be integrated with only P4s and not EP2s (never mind P2!)
Why the change? What's the point?? Where is P4??? Is this too many question marks????
Wasn't the plan supposed to be that the T2s would be integrated with only P4s and not EP2s (never mind P2!)
Why the change? What's the point?? Where is P4??? Is this too many question marks????
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Typhoon Tranche 2 Dropping Paveway
Orca.
I was lucky enough to be at MC 05 & 06. Bloody brilliant exercise to partake in. OLF virtually everywhere.
BV
I was lucky enough to be at MC 05 & 06. Bloody brilliant exercise to partake in. OLF virtually everywhere.
BV
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Actually, that's a good point, VC. I thought Tranche 1 would have 'austere' EPW2 and Tranche 2 were supposed to have PW4. Maybe they found another 'feature' of the system so went for a quick PW2 fit with the promise of an instant upgrade to PW4 as soon as the 'feature' gets fixed.
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Typhoon can carry the Litening pod. See following of Typhoon carrying pod on centre-lne store during Libyan operations during 2011.
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I presume they have a pod?
A RAF Typhoon departs from Gioia del Colle, equipped with Enhanced Paveway II bombs, air to air missiles and a Litening pod in support of the UN sanctioned No Fly Zone over Libya. 16 April 2011
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BV - I thought 41 had gone to become the OEU by then. Having now Wiki'd it and seen their April 2006 disbandment date I should have thought harder before slandering your old unit; my apologies. One of those episodes that made riveting viewing from the sidelines but evidently the fine detail didn't stick!
I'd also forgotten that the leaping heap's PW3 shocker happened in roughly the same timeframe. There were definitely no smug comments about PW3 ability of the other fleets knocking around the Tornado force at the time. None whatsoever.
It made a nice, if brief change from being on the receiving end!
I'd also forgotten that the leaping heap's PW3 shocker happened in roughly the same timeframe. There were definitely no smug comments about PW3 ability of the other fleets knocking around the Tornado force at the time. None whatsoever.
It made a nice, if brief change from being on the receiving end!