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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 21:41
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Irish citizen joining the RAF?

Hey guys, Since the airline world is going down the drain at an ever increasing rate I was curious as to what are my chances of being accepted into the RAF as a pilot with me being an irish citizen? Obviously I would have to move to the UK.
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You may wish to check this out first if you have not already done so.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 21:50
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Thanks, so it says I must be a UK citizen or holder of dual UK/other nationality, this is the part that's confusing me
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my chances
As we seem to be talking betting averages, the answer must be vanishingly small before we even get to all the other considerations.
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Not exactly, there doesn't seem to be anything that says I can or cannot join as a pilot, but with a job as important and in as high demand I get the idea it would be reserved for UK citizens if you follow me
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You have to live in the UK for a minimum of 5 years even if you fit the citizenship requirements before you can even apply.
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Going for a job that involves arduous physical training, a lot of "silly officer stuff" around the flying and the possibility of being shot at in not-very-nice places just because the airlines aren't hiring? Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Easyjet have just announced they're shortly going to be after another 300+ pilots. Far more than any military need.
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Well thanks, I couldn't find a straight answer for that anywhere, well it looks like the Irish air core is my only option..flying a C172 over vast bogland in the freezing rain
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I know what you're saying but the military pay better than most LCCs do and I'm sure its an interesting experience
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If you live in the UK for the required period of time, will you still be within the age limits?
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Easyjet have just announced they're shortly going to be after another 300+ pilots. Far more than any military need.
That is however just a paperwork exercise to transfer ownership from CTC to easyjet at lower terms and conditions. There are no new pilots required.

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@Milo Minderbinder I would but that would mean moving when I'm 18, but 5 years is a long time to wait, I'd say I would have a better chance of finding an Airline job in the meantime.
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Good job we werent applying that 5 year rule in 1940 when the Irish were coming over in their droves to join all three of our services, most of them serving gallantly, and not a few dying.

If those are the facts now I'm not disputing them but it seems a damn silly rule to me.
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In the event that the airlines and the RAF don't work out for you, it would be worthwhile to note that it's spelt Irish Air Corps ( and pick a happier smily for the application).

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Nothing about needing dual nationality there. Also the 5-year rule may not be wholly inflexible
A little later it states:

"For security reasons, there are stricter nationality requirements for some jobs. For a few, you must have been a UK citizen and UK resident since birth. Please check the individual job files on this website for more information. "

And, clicking on the jobs - pilot tab:

"Nationality: UK citizen or holder of dual UK/other nationality"

(unlike WSO: "Nationality: Citizen of the UK or the Republic of Ireland, or a Commonwealth citizen since birth.")

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 09:08
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WW, thank you, that explains why we had an AEO for whom English was a second language
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 09:13
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Of course, there are a significant number of us who serve/have served holding dual Irish/UK citizenship. I am (un)fortunate enough to hold two passports having been born and bred in that top right bit of the island of Ireland.
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And interestingly: WSO (linguist) "Nationality: UK citizen since birth."

There are also more restrictions on an avionics technician (UK/dual UK+other) than on his or her potential boss (UK, RoI, Commonwealth).


Good to see that 'critical thinking' isn't accepted as an A-level qualification. Can't have people questioning dumb-ass rules, regs & orders.

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 11:48
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Well, now you see that it wasn't such a good idea in 1922.

I know. Hat, coat...

Sorry.
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 10:59
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Well, now you see that it wasn't such a good idea in 1922.
... yet strangely the Irish Free State didn't leave the Commonwealth until 1949. Perhaps that was a wartime recruiting thing - although some Irish veterans were very shoddily treated by De Valera's lot.

And they've still only got one (bl%%dy good) rugby team in the "Island of Ireland". Which is much better than having two p!$$ poor soccer teams ....

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