Typhoons begin leaving Leuchars this year
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Typhoons begin leaving Leuchars this year
Just seen this posted on Fighter Control:-
Typhoon jets will depart Leuchars by end of year - Fife / Local / News / The Courier
Plus the post on Fighter Control with comments:-
The local paper today says . . . . • FighterControl • Military Aviation Forum
Typhoon jets will depart Leuchars by end of year - Fife / Local / News / The Courier
Plus the post on Fighter Control with comments:-
The local paper today says . . . . • FighterControl • Military Aviation Forum
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1) only an Engineer Regiment at Kinloss - lots of practice at digging up runways?
2) Challenger tanks at Leuchars - resurrection of the old Tentsmuir firing range, with well-heeled golfers on the Old Course being issued with ear defenders?
Still, at least RAF ATC will have another Watchman to use for spares
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1) only an Engineer Regiment at Kinloss - lots of practice at digging up runways?
2) Challenger tanks at Leuchars - resurrection of the old Tentsmuir firing range, with well-heeled golfers on the Old Course being issued with ear defenders?
Still, at least RAF ATC will have another Watchman to use for spares
NS
The word on Arrse seems to be that a small Crab detachment will remain in order to keep the Tarmac strip available for Royal golf charters and the like.
(ISTR on on another thread on the subject, predicting that panzers would be making an appearance.)
(ISTR on on another thread on the subject, predicting that panzers would be making an appearance.)
resurrection of the old Tentsmuir firing range
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Also...
1) only an Engineer Regiment at Kinloss - lots of practice at digging up runways?
2) Challenger tanks at Leuchars - resurrection of the old Tentsmuir firing range, with well-heeled golfers on the Old Course being issued with ear defenders?
Still, at least RAF ATC will have another Watchman to use for spares
NS
1) only an Engineer Regiment at Kinloss - lots of practice at digging up runways?
2) Challenger tanks at Leuchars - resurrection of the old Tentsmuir firing range, with well-heeled golfers on the Old Course being issued with ear defenders?
Still, at least RAF ATC will have another Watchman to use for spares
NS
The word on Arrse seems to be that a small Crab detachment will remain in order to keep the Tarmac strip available for Royal golf charters and the like.
Indeed, thinking about the rationale behind the SDSR and PR2 etc, I'm not sure if the first aim was to simply find a home for Troops returning from Germany or to close as many runways as possible in order to pay off the UK's debts.
On the latter point, I'd say the SDSR certainly went a runway, or two, too far!
Anyway the Army should feel quite happy at having an airfield in the back yard, especially in these air bridge reliant expeditionary days!!
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Must have been a tough Leuchars vs Lossie decision...
Lossie not required as resident tornado aircraft going out of service...
Leuchars already has 2 typhoon squadrons, infrastructure set up and room to expand.
Lossie will need considerable, costly modifications for typhoon.
Leuchars needs nothing.
Maintaining a runway at Leuchars is essential.
Lossie doesn't need a runway.
Ding Ding! And the winner is.....Lossie!
That's going to be costly...
Lossie not required as resident tornado aircraft going out of service...
Leuchars already has 2 typhoon squadrons, infrastructure set up and room to expand.
Lossie will need considerable, costly modifications for typhoon.
Leuchars needs nothing.
Maintaining a runway at Leuchars is essential.
Lossie doesn't need a runway.
Ding Ding! And the winner is.....Lossie!
That's going to be costly...
BlindWingy,
I don't think anyone can fault your logic. Madness, isn't it? My thought is that the local MP put up a good fight on the grounds that closing two Morayshire bases would have been catastrophic for the local economy.
It's good to know that basing decisions are taken for sound, operational reasons!
I don't think anyone can fault your logic. Madness, isn't it? My thought is that the local MP put up a good fight on the grounds that closing two Morayshire bases would have been catastrophic for the local economy.
It's good to know that basing decisions are taken for sound, operational reasons!
Could have opted for Dyce. Spare sheds on the East side. Crash & Smash onsite, along with snow-clearance security and Air Traffic. Plenty of precedents for joint civ/mil airfields elsewhere.
Last edited by diginagain; 8th Mar 2013 at 08:44.
Doesn't matter what anyone says, the Army always manage to cock up an airfield when they move in. Look at Abingdon; a fence built all round inside the peri track; Catterick, houses built on the edge of the runway.
You make a good point, Chevvron.
The Marines trashed the Chivenor main runway when they moved in too. I suspect that making the place as unsuitable as possible for air ops reduces the likelihood that the base could ever be returned to flying status and, therefore, Light Blue.
The Marines trashed the Chivenor main runway when they moved in too. I suspect that making the place as unsuitable as possible for air ops reduces the likelihood that the base could ever be returned to flying status and, therefore, Light Blue.
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It will be interesting to see who rules with regard to Aircraft operations when the Army do move in. The ESUAS, AEF and the Flying Club (understandably) are low priority at the moment, but it would be prudent to promote them and actively use Leuchars for Divs and exercises as much as possible to stop any Army encroachment airside. SATCO will need to fight his corner and having as many aircraft movements as possible will help him.
On saying that, the (at the time very funny) toast by the AOC at last years BoB dining in night won't help future Army/Airforce co-operation....
"Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the ARMY....... because if they had not lost the Battle of France, we would not have WON the Battle of Britain!"
I guess future Dining in Nights will be a sea of red and black and crab jokes will predominate........
On saying that, the (at the time very funny) toast by the AOC at last years BoB dining in night won't help future Army/Airforce co-operation....
"Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the ARMY....... because if they had not lost the Battle of France, we would not have WON the Battle of Britain!"
I guess future Dining in Nights will be a sea of red and black and crab jokes will predominate........
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Originally Posted by Courtney Mil
BlindWingy,
I don't think anyone can fault your logic. Madness, isn't it? My thought is that the local MP put up a good fight on the grounds that closing two Morayshire bases would have been catastrophic for the local economy.
It's good to know that basing decisions are taken for sound, operational reasons!
I don't think anyone can fault your logic. Madness, isn't it? My thought is that the local MP put up a good fight on the grounds that closing two Morayshire bases would have been catastrophic for the local economy.
It's good to know that basing decisions are taken for sound, operational reasons!
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Wasn't Lossie originally designated as the Joint F35 base? And recent army utterances in the papers seem to indicate that the option for Leuchars may not be taken up due to less troops for Scotland.