JAS-39 low rolls.
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The pilot's commander at the F21 squadron in Luleå in northern Sweden has written to the Swedish Armed Forces Disciplinary Board (Försvarsmaktens Personalansvarsnämnd) to recommend dismissal.
According to the commander's report, the 26-year-old pilot performed several rolling manoeuvres with the aircraft at very low altitudes.
"He has exposed himself, state property and third parties to far more serious risks than is acceptable," the report stated.
He was furthermore found to have attempted to cover up his reckless behaviour by failing to filing to file a report of the incidents and by later lying to officers when questioned.
The report details how the 26-year-old's employers had subsequently lost all confidence in him due to his actions and the attempted cover up.
"The employer lacks confidence in him as an individual and consider him therefore plainly unsuitable as a pilot and an officer."
According to the commander's report, the 26-year-old pilot performed several rolling manoeuvres with the aircraft at very low altitudes.
"He has exposed himself, state property and third parties to far more serious risks than is acceptable," the report stated.
He was furthermore found to have attempted to cover up his reckless behaviour by failing to filing to file a report of the incidents and by later lying to officers when questioned.
The report details how the 26-year-old's employers had subsequently lost all confidence in him due to his actions and the attempted cover up.
"The employer lacks confidence in him as an individual and consider him therefore plainly unsuitable as a pilot and an officer."
With no facts other than the report in the paper I wonder whether it is the lack of flying discipline or (more likely?) the attempts to cover it up that have led to this?
Last edited by Kitbag; 20th Jan 2013 at 11:19. Reason: Thought it would make sese to post the newspaper version of events
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Having worked at a Swedish fighter base, and finding their approach to "just culture" to be very good, I suspect the latter.
.....depends how low he got off course.
.....depends how low he got off course.
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The video posted by ORAC reminded me that quite often the members of this forum* generally give kudos to low flying; the many Mirage/Jaguar/Bucaneer/Harrier/Tornado/F16 videos as well as a French KC135 spring to mind. I am not an aviator in any sense but am curious to consider what other factors if any led to what seems to be quite a draconian recommendation given that this guy had made it through the presumably expensive training system,
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"...dangerous 'barrel' roll..."
.......for killing people. Usually by failing to pitch sufficiently during the first part, then burying the nose during the second part, without enough height to complete the manoeuvre.
"...later lying to officers when questioned."
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Beagle,
I agree; however, a barrel roll in itself is not dangerous. Failure to perfom the manoeuvre correctly, can put the pilot in a dangerous position.
Duncs
I agree; however, a barrel roll in itself is not dangerous. Failure to perfom the manoeuvre correctly, can put the pilot in a dangerous position.
Duncs
Indeed so Duncs. If you don't see any sky through the windscreen at the inverted stage, spot roll out immediately and give yourself a firm talking-to!
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Beagle,
Couldn't agree more. A text-book barrel roll has a level axis. At low level the axis must be inclined (upwards!). Almost learned that the hard way. Look what happened to the guy (incipient alzheimers forgotten his name - probably a good thing) who got it wrong in an Invader at Biggin way back in time. I have always thought the barrel roll to be the most dangerous manoeuvre at low level. Just slightly ahead of a real Derry turn.
Couldn't agree more. A text-book barrel roll has a level axis. At low level the axis must be inclined (upwards!). Almost learned that the hard way. Look what happened to the guy (incipient alzheimers forgotten his name - probably a good thing) who got it wrong in an Invader at Biggin way back in time. I have always thought the barrel roll to be the most dangerous manoeuvre at low level. Just slightly ahead of a real Derry turn.
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