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RAF Lockheed P-2 Neptune

Old 1st Feb 2015, 02:05
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All you wanted to know about the 24 Neptunes flown by the RAAF:

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Old 1st Feb 2015, 12:55
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R.A.F. Lockheed Neptune P2V5

The Neptunes at MOTU at Kinloss when I went through the course in the summer of 1953 were the short nosed ones with the three turrets. When I joined 203 Squadron at Topcliffe that Autumn we were equipped with the long nosed version still with the three turrets. After about a year these were taken to Scottish Aviation at Prestwick and they were converted to the Perspex (?) nose and the MAD "sting" tail. Also the electric Varicam was changed to a hydraulic Varicam to avoid interference with the MAD tail instrumentation. A lovely aeroplane but I preferred four Griffons!! What have we got now? I think that we still had the twin .5 turret on top, but can't be sure. We still had our 16 rockets under the wings.
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 17:44
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I had a colleague who was an ex-Chieftain tanker. He reckoned that if they had to, they could pull into a supermarket parking lot and refuel on bulk cooking oil.
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 19:23
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Back to Neptunes...

... last summer on our way back to the Chunnel we stayed overnight in a farmhouse B&B. There were 8 other guests there (of a similar demographic to madame and me).

Next morning over breakfast we all got chatting and one chap (deaf as a post) picked up that we were from Morayshire and said that he had spent a couple of weeks at a place called Kinloss for an exercise (flying Neptunes from the French Aeronavale) in the late 1950s.

He became very enthousiastic on finding a fellow (ex)maritime aviator but said that he and crew had had great difficulty with the food in both the Os and Sgts messes. "terrible" he claimed. Being enterprising chaps they set snares around the dispersal and caught a lot of rabbits. How to cook them?

As mentioned further up there was quite a good galley in the aircraft.
They decided to start an engine and get a genny on line to power the oven. It took rather a long time to cook the casserole and he reckoned they'd burnt maybe a thousand litres of Avgas.
"The most expensive rabbit stew in the history of French cuisine".

Small world the maritime aviators' world. But always amiable and interesting.

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Old 1st Feb 2015, 21:43
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C'est France..................
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 08:40
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fish

the food in both the Os and Sgts messes. "terrible"
They should have gone into Findhorn for a Fish or Haggis Supper. That would have given them a whole new gastronomic experience.

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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 09:09
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Actually...

......from a nation that eats Andouillette (chopped up intestines in a natural casing and a VERY strange smell) haggis might have been quite acceptable.

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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 13:27
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Rossian - NO, a VAST improvement!
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Old 11th Feb 2015, 19:02
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The Neptunes certainly had the range, and the handling was excellent. I was told it was "almost like a fighter". APS 20 was very powerful, but the display was a bit rubbish when looking for small contacts. The early sonobuoy system using EER was very hit or miss, as was the Shackleton, with its slow data rate 1c system. I looked round one at Ballykelly, and remember the main spar took up a lot of space, and made it hard to move around. The galley was tiny and a bit of a slum. In ASW exercises from Ballykelly it did not have a lot of luck. Later improvements (AQA5?) may have helped, but the Shackletons had the edge as an ASW aircraft.
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Old 11th Feb 2015, 19:05
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Many thanks Alan ... I'm pleased to see my original post still pulling some interest
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 00:33
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Topcliffe Neptunes.

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Many thanks Alan ... I'm pleased to see my original post still pulling some interest
As plane mad youngsters in the early 1950s, my brother and I lived in a village about 10 miles south of Topcliffe and would regularly see both the short and long tailed Neptunes passing overhead on their landing approach. They had lovely sounding engines compared to the racket from Dishforth's Valettas! We occasionally got close to them at Linton-on-Ouse open days and remember the subtle whistle that came from the props; noticeable during start up, warm up and taxiing. They seemed impressive aeroplanes to us.

Around the same period we had the excitement of 66 and 92 squadron Canadair Sabres frequently passing around the village, and used to ride our bikes the 5 miles to hang over the hedge to watch the Sabre movements for hours on end.

I realise I am extremely late to add to this thread, but I saw a photo of a Neptune on line and the memories spurred me to do a bit of a search which ended up here!
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Old 20th May 2020, 23:46
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Did we just use the P-2 for patrols around the coast at height of the Cold War, or did we deploy them outside of theses shores and Europe such as used in the Malayan emergency or Borneo ..

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Old 21st May 2020, 11:47
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They were certainly all UK based, and I have a vague idea that as they were MDAP-funded they could only be used as NATO assets.
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Old 22nd May 2020, 01:19
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Martin the Martian,

I doubt that there was any such restriction seeing as the majority of the RAF's Hunters, Shackletons and Javelins were also MDAP funded.
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[QUOTE=chopper2004;10788283]Did we just use the P-2 for patrols around the coast at height of the Cold War, or did we deploy them outside of theses shores and Europe such as used in the Malayan emergency or Borneo ..

Pretty sure they were based at Kinross in the 50s

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Or even Kinloss
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Old 22nd May 2020, 09:25
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Given that there were 6 squadrons plus the radar trials flight I assume 3 at Kinloss and 3 at St Mawgan?
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/researc...sp-2h-neptune/

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Old 22nd May 2020, 10:19
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Originally Posted by Green Flash View Post
Given that there were 6 squadrons plus the radar trials flight I assume 3 at Kinloss and 3 at St Mawgan?
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/researc...sp-2h-neptune/
There is speculation that the AEW Research & Development work conducted by 1453 Flight from Topcliffe (1953 to 1956) may in fact be a cover story for classified radar reconnaissance operations over the Eastern Bloc. Their Neptunes appear to have carried full defensive armament, which seems inconsistent with R & D flights.
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Old 22nd May 2020, 15:03
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Originally Posted by Green Flash View Post
Given that there were 6 squadrons plus the radar trials flight I assume 3 at Kinloss and 3 at St Mawgan?
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/researc...sp-2h-neptune/
Nope. Only 4 RAF Neptune squadrons (36, 203, 210 and 217) with 3 squadrons and the AEW Flight at RAF Topcliffe, and 1 squadron at RAF Kinloss. Plus there was the Neptune element of the OCU at Kinloss too.
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