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Old 16th Dec 2012, 07:26
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Again, thanks. I'll give all these matters consideration and am sure will come up with a result following all this super input/ideas.

I don't doubt for one moment the contents of your second paragraph - and am aware of something pretty similar. Life is full of weird turns and twists . . .

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While you might get the script word perfect the effect can still be ruined by stereotypical casting.

There was a radio play based on the Black Buck mission. Now they got John Reeve's voice to a T but some of the other characters were caricatured. Clearly the audience can't 'see' uniforms or necessarily remember all the characters in a short radio play hence the device of using words like 'Engineer' vice Tom, Dick, Harry or Sir, but to then give him a broad Scots accents a la Star Trek ruins it. The nature if the beast is that most RAF officers acquire very similar moderated accents - of course that creates its own problem on radio.
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Hempy - wrecker wrecked in wrecking yard by piece of junk.

Oh, the irony....That God chap has a b#gger of a sense of humour sometimes!
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The in-cockpit dialogue might go something like
(ba-bang)
Pilot "We've lost power, pulling up"
pause (Nav would wait till climb established - some crews might have the pilot say "ready for checks" or the nav might ask this).
Nav "Check rpms" (no rpm gauges in rear cockpit)
Pilot" zero on the left - seized, the right is at 90%, unstable"
Nav" suggest we jettison"
Pilot "roger, punching the tanks off"
(Thunk as tanks come off)
Nav "Safety altitude is 6,300 ft. Steer 050 for Lossie, 52 miles"
Pilot"Roger, coming starboard 050. Get the cards out for the drills"
etc.
Duncan's version makes better telly though.
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I won't give up the day job then!

He asked for correct. What happens between there and the screen I daren't guess. I'm given to understand it usually involves sex, lies, and bribery, but not much doesn't these days........
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While you might get the script word perfect the effect can still be ruined by stereotypical casting.
Thank you for the advice - and point taken.

And if you can think of any other stories/tales, waiting to be told, please feel free to contact me.

I'm recently back from a meeting with producers in Los Angeles regarding a full 120 page thriller type screenplay, but to be honest, all they wanted to talk about was a remake of the 1955 film, "The Cockleshell Heroes" - British history/gallantry is still very much a draw to some American producers.
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Given your background I'd do the remake. Do your own thing later when you're sitting by your pool in Santa Monica.
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That would be good.

While they are at it, why not the Singapore Raids as well


FYI, the Klepper canoe was still being taught in the 1990's as part of
the Water Ops course and probably still is. Plenty of originals still
around here in Aus.

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FYI, the Klepper canoe was still be taught in the 1990's . . .
My brother and I had one! Stolen from beneath the nose of Paddy Ashdown - the only Special Forces officer my father didn't have a good word to say about . . .
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I never knew Paddy Ashdown was in the Royal Marines.
Interesting.


How did it get stolen from under his nose ?

Not the lightest thing to pick up or the easiest
to hide.
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I never knew Paddy Ashdown was in the Royal Marines.
Interesting.


How did it get stolen from under his nose ?

Not the lightest thing to pick up or the easiest
to hide.
Yes, he was SBS in the 60's when we lived in Singapore - and I recall seeing him at Stonehouse, Plymouth in 1970, so he was still serving then.

How it was nicked I don't know, but it was eventually given to the RM canoe club at 45 Commando, to use on Roscobie Loch near Forfar, so as it was returned to the Corp, it strictly wasn't stolen but borrowed for several years.

It's forty plus years ago, but I'm sure from memory it had a wooden skeleton type frame and could be dismantled.
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"I'm sure from memory it had a wooden skeleton type frame
and could be dismantled."

Correct

Dismantled and folded up in a bag system. Also had a rudder system (or ours did) and covered in Canvas and a bit of rubber.
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Also had a rudder system (or ours did) and covered in Canvas and a bit of rubber.
It had that alright.

Australia? "Or ours did"? Your initials aren't P.C. are they?
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"Australia? "Or ours did"?"
Yes, Australian. I wasn't sure if any changes had been made
and apart from seeing the film Cockleshell Heroes,
I haven't seen one as used by UK forces.

No, initials N.M.

Send me a PM re P.C and which unit and years.
I might know him.
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Send me a PM re P.C and which unit and years.
Will do.

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DM,

A torrent of high octane aviation gasoline cascades towards terra firma - down
onto where MacDonald stands smoking. With a whoosh, he is evaporated.
I would be careful with that - jets don't use gasolene.
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I would be careful with that - jets don't use gasolene.
Yes, STUFF and others have pointed this out to me. I'm sitting here trying to tackle it another way . . .

Thanks though.
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The in-cockpit dialogue might go something like
(ba-bang)
Pilot "We've lost power, pulling up"
Bird strike would fit in well; would allow early footage of golden eagles and a squad of beaters driving a flock of grouse towards a gun party. Later bird strike being caused the eagle tracking a hare alarmed by the father and grouse alarmed by the eagle?

Multiple strikes damaging canopy, taking out one engine, forcing full tank/pylon jettison?

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If it's a Tornado you can't jettison the pylon, just the tank.
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Bird strike would fit in well; would allow early footage of golden eagles and a squad of beaters driving a flock of grouse towards a gun party. Later bird strike being caused the eagle tracking a hare alarmed by the father and grouse alarmed by the eagle?

Multiple strikes damaging canopy, taking out one engine, forcing full tank/pylon jettison?
I like that very much! Followed by Fox3WheresMyBanana cockpit dialogue. Thanks!

Curious, what is a 'pylon' as referred to above?
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