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Old 14th Dec 2012, 00:53
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Targetting - Or, how effective is your bomb aiming

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Bomb Sight - Mapping the World War 2 London Blitz Bomb Census

A plot of all the weaponry dropped during 8 months of the London blitz Oct 40 - Jun 41

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It is certainly an accurate plot; it correctly shows the location of a bomb that blew the roof off our house! I find it odd that that there were about 200 bombs in Hyde Park and only one on Waterloo station. Suggest to me that there was not much ability to select and identify targets.
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Didn't the Germans use St Pauls as a target and never managed to destroy it? I don't know if a bomb ever landed close enough to do any damage.
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A fascinating website. It's amazing that apart from one bomb, The Tower of London and Tower Bridge had close escapes!

I recently lived in St Katharine's dock, I understand that during the blitz, the water was on fire for 3 days due to a layer of naptha and oil.

My grandmothers house in EForest Gate was destroyed, must have been a terrifying time for the East Enders.....
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Politicians should be forced to look at these types of maps and of course the exact same ones that will show German cities which I am guessing will look just as awful.

War is an insane activity fought by very brave men and of course women but what about those that get us into these situations?

I have NO idea what the answer is and we must never give in to tyranny but is all out war ever the answer?
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It is a fascinating map.

I would really like to see one for the whole of
the war including all V1's.
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A fascinating website. It's amazing that apart from one bomb, The Tower of London and Tower Bridge had close escapes!
Closest escape was St Paul's.....
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Another question for bit of minutiae. We know that our fighters guns were zeroed, was this done during the height of the battle or was there simply no time?

Similarly bomb sights need to be calibrated and we used to spend hours doing so flying cloverleafs. Did the Luftwaffe dispense with calibration on the grounds that they wouldn't see the aiming point anyway.

I have seen a bombing leader's mathematical calculations for Lancaster bomb sights when I was at Waddo, did Bomber Command main force do calibration sorties? I know there were east coast bombing ranges but these may have been used for crew conversion sorties rather than calibration.
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War is an insane activity fought by very brave men and of course women but what about those that get us into these situations?

If you win (or think you do), you get rich - Blair/Dubya

If you lose, you pay the price - Hitler/Himmler etc...
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George V - Kaiser Bill

Thatcher - Galtiere

Truman - Hirohito

Tito - Mussolini

Major/Bush - Hussein

Blair/Dubya - Hussein

Spot the odd one out.
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Stalin - everyone..

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One wonders what on earth was at Trotter's Bottom (now Dyrham Golf club - 51 40 29.75N 0 13 43.67W) to warrant such a tight grouping of 19 bombs? Or were they all coincidental mistakes?

Nothing found in the archives to suggest any military site - maybe a decoy airfield?
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Would be interesting to see the bombs by day for the whole blitz and then V1/V2 etc

Even more interesting to see which are still around now (UXBs)...
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sisemen,

If a bomber got into dificulties, and elected to jettison it's bomb load, would it drop them live over "hostile" territory?



Could you tight grouping of 19 on no apparent target be as the result of a live jettison of ordinance?
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I see what you mean. Not a string of bombs but bombs
dropped in one place.

As someone else commented, it's interesting to see some of the strings
of bombs and some of the locations.
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They would still be in a string though.

I notice that a string of bombs exists just north east of that cluster.
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Sorry Biggus - just worked out that there was a decoy airfield there (Q and K Sites - whatever that means).

That also explains the large amount by the side of the old A1 (now A1081)
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Do you have a link to that info ?
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Go to Google Earth and click on Gallery and Google Earth Community and then click on the blue "i" that comes up (there's 2 on the area in questions) - otherwise the following site is good background on K (day time sites) and Q (night time sites) - it's amazing the byways where a little research takes you. Can't find anything specific on this particular site tho'

Decoys

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Over a dozen bombs were dropped on our local cemetery! Well I suppose they just wanted to make sure. Very thorough, the Germans.
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