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Reserve Liability
Have recently left - best piece of administration ever completed by the military:
Gratuity in the bank 10 days after exit date.
Final pay paid on last day of month and pension paid 6 days later.
Received my certificate of service, valedictory certificate, letter of thanks from CAS and my Lapel Badge too (whoopie).
My question; Valedictory Certificate states Nil Reserve Liability, which contradicts everything I had been previously told. So do I assume that is correct and no more blue/green/sandy uniform for me ever again?
Final pay paid on last day of month and pension paid 6 days later.
Received my certificate of service, valedictory certificate, letter of thanks from CAS and my Lapel Badge too (whoopie).
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I thought my reserve liability had ended at the age of 55 but recently read that it may actually go on until the age of 60 for "retired" officers.
Never mind, I'm sure I'd still be a first class asset to any modern fighting service if only I could get through the medical and beep test, cough, cough, hobble.... Now, where's my glasses?
Never mind, I'm sure I'd still be a first class asset to any modern fighting service if only I could get through the medical and beep test, cough, cough, hobble.... Now, where's my glasses?
In fact the original DINs about Tranche 2 Redundancy stated that for the Naval Service and the RAF (but not the Army) the personnel concerned would be subject to the normal reserve liability applicable to their rank, age, type of engagement, etc.
Reserve liability after redundancy?
They may have relented somewhat after those DINs were issued?
Reserve liability after redundancy?
They may have relented somewhat after those DINs were issued?
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Never mind, I'm sure I'd still be a first class asset to any modern fighting service if only I could get through the medical and beep test, cough, cough, hobble.... Now, where's my glasses?
Doubt whether I'd pass any equal opportunities screening either, and late I latterly developed verbal tourette's syndrome when speaking to senior officers.
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Nil Reserve Liability.
Yes, I found that statement on my docs after completing 22yrs, I'd thought the old, "Up to age 60 but only up to 55" doo dah applied.
When I joined the TA they tried to 'transfer' my reserve liability and couldn't find any! I've often wondered why the RAF policy has changed.
I've heard various posters here and on ARrse say they've moved or they wouldn't be found if recalled, but everyone has an NI number don't they?
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When I joined the TA they tried to 'transfer' my reserve liability and couldn't find any! I've often wondered why the RAF policy has changed.
I've heard various posters here and on ARrse say they've moved or they wouldn't be found if recalled, but everyone has an NI number don't they?
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But what happens when you come back?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
DPA98 would probably kick in as they omitted any mechanism for the MOD to access the NI numbers!
Other than an encyclopaediac knowledge as demonstrated here what relevant skills could your near sextuarian bring to the party other than WIW . . . or Stop Me if You've Heard This.
it may actually go on until the age of 60 for "retired" officers.
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Well, I don't want to bring anything. Anyway, even "NATO standard" tea has changed since I left.... 
Rather than have a set of encyclopedias for a brain, I cheat and just read stuff like this:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/68DEE...UIDE_P4562.pdf
Rather than have a set of encyclopedias for a brain, I cheat and just read stuff like this:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/68DEE...UIDE_P4562.pdf
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I thought my reserve liability had ended at the age of 55 but recently read that it may actually go on until the age of 60 for "retired" officers.
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I wouldn't worry about reserve service dates...If they find that they really do need your special services after all this time without it, they'll make sure you know about it - whether your in date or not.
At which point you'll be given a big stick - and made to sign for it.
At which point you'll be given a big stick - and made to sign for it.
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Ship sailed shurely?
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Rigga, I've got a doctor's note about carrying big sticks. Health and safety risks and all that, can't be too careful at my age. Still, mustn't grumble. Even though the shrapnel in my leg tends to give me a bit of gip this cold weather.
I'm off to get some Vicks vapour rub on me chest and a hot Ovaltine drink to take to bed, before the wheezing gets worse (or was it wee-ing the doctor said? Better check that with nurse).
I'm off to get some Vicks vapour rub on me chest and a hot Ovaltine drink to take to bed, before the wheezing gets worse (or was it wee-ing the doctor said? Better check that with nurse).
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You're confusing 2 things here:
Reserve Liability.....an amount of time where you can be recalled to support whatever operation HMG wants. If you have completed a pensionable length of service (22yrs, 16yrs or 18yrs depending on pension scheme and rank) then you usually do not have any reserve liability.
Recall Liability.....upto age 60 for retired Officers for defence of the nation only. The AP details exactly what!
If you leave on redundancy then you can apply for an exemption from both reserve and recall liabilities (if they apply), if you leave otherwise then you can't. Personally, I requested exemption since looking at how the Govt has tinkered with pensions then I don't trust a future Govt not to tinker with the applicability of my recall liability. If the Nation is truly threatened then if I am still young enough I'd volunteer, but I don't fancy more time on some jolly jape somewhere that is that years fancy!
Hope this helps!
Reserve Liability.....an amount of time where you can be recalled to support whatever operation HMG wants. If you have completed a pensionable length of service (22yrs, 16yrs or 18yrs depending on pension scheme and rank) then you usually do not have any reserve liability.
Recall Liability.....upto age 60 for retired Officers for defence of the nation only. The AP details exactly what!
If you leave on redundancy then you can apply for an exemption from both reserve and recall liabilities (if they apply), if you leave otherwise then you can't. Personally, I requested exemption since looking at how the Govt has tinkered with pensions then I don't trust a future Govt not to tinker with the applicability of my recall liability. If the Nation is truly threatened then if I am still young enough I'd volunteer, but I don't fancy more time on some jolly jape somewhere that is that years fancy!
Hope this helps!
Last edited by Once A Brat; 9th Dec 2012 at 10:46. Reason: My poor spelling!
Once A Brat, very well explained - which is far more than the explanation outlined in the official publications ever was!
Call-out = getting dragged back for more underfunded military adventurism, such as one of Bliar's bring-a-bottle wars.
Recall = standing to in order to repel 'jackboots crossing the Channel'!
On PVR'-ing, I summarised my understanding of my remaining reserve liability in a letter to Binnsworth, adding that if there was no reply then I would assume that my understanding was correct. No reply, therefore any reserve liability ended on my 60th birthday...even though it was the new 40!
Call-out = getting dragged back for more underfunded military adventurism, such as one of Bliar's bring-a-bottle wars.
Recall = standing to in order to repel 'jackboots crossing the Channel'!
On PVR'-ing, I summarised my understanding of my remaining reserve liability in a letter to Binnsworth, adding that if there was no reply then I would assume that my understanding was correct. No reply, therefore any reserve liability ended on my 60th birthday...even though it was the new 40!
