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Old 17th Nov 2012, 09:04
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Is this Genuine !!!

A spot of idle browsing one evening ... as you do ... and I came across this photo on the RAF Halton 86th Entry Association's homepage.

RAF Halton 86th Entry Association - (see news tab Nov 2011)

It purports to show a Rhodesian Air Force Canberra flying through a hangar !

It doesn't look "mucked about" ... if genuine ... I'm sure the story would have reached some of our Ex Canberra chaps ? Difficult to judge dates ... but (1) the pilot appears to be wearing only a "cloth electric hat" with no bone dome and (2) the Rhodesian's operated Canberra's around this time ... so it could be 50's as a punt ?



Apparently ORAFs stands for Old Rhodesian Air Force Sods.

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True or not. That a cracking looking photo!
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I'd like to think it's genuine!


I seem to recall that a long time ago this photo featured on another thread but maybe not on this site. I can't remember what the consensus was at the time.
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Looking at the stack of pallets, middle right, they are in sharp focus as is the Canberra. Early photoshop methinks.
Shame though it would be a good story esp from the guy on the floor.
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if you go to the adf serials site amd do a search.

there is a photo very much the sale only this time it is a RAAF aircraft

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Those crazy 2 SQN guys!!
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Herkman ... Just had a look ... exact same picture but this time described as ...

"RAAF Un-Official' Canberra Mk20 A84-216 'Hangar Fly Through' Amberley C1970"
ADF Serials (see photo gallery under EE Canberra)

Humm ... cracking image though

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Fake...

No heat haze, it looks foggy outside (or it really is as flat as a pancake outside!), the front fan blades look stationary, no dust or debris kicked up and the cloth G-helmets were blue in those days so would not look so dark (I suspect that is a groundrcew mate with dark hair).

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With the speed of photograghic film in those days if you could pan fast enough to keep the Canberra in focus there would be no chance of the background being the same.
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Also ... if RAAF ... then the guy would have been inverted

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Pretty sure it is a fake, but as for the comment re the fan blades being stationary, on the Avon the first stage was inlet guide vanes and they did not revolve; merely altered their angle with rpm.
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Wow that's quite a trick with the compressor blades not turning in the first pic
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Yes a/c was on jacks
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This is the real deal though... on the 21st Aug 1950 Swede Ralston flew his T-6 through one of the ex Airship Hangars at Tillamook OR,halfway through he rolled inverted and flew out inverted...

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Ron, using the T6's inverted fuel system perhaps?
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Swede Ralston had his name painted upside down on his AT 6...he was an Airshow performer

Best pic I could find...

Google Image Result for http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7184/7041755299_2c61aed666_z.jpg

Not his a/c but same paint scheme

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It is fairly well documented RG

Here
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"Swede" Ralston

From the notes in the link: Ralston (born 1916) "unfortunately ... suffered from congestive heart failure, and passed away November 14, 2007. Many will miss him."

That must make him a truly old, bold pilot.
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Hopefully Coff will not mind if I introduce another pic which is often presented as a mid air collision... but is quite obviously a ground collision - possibly at Speke !





As previously posted...even in the 40's people had a sense of humour with photos
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Definately not Speke, they haven't knicked the wheels!

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