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Understatement of the Year

Old 14th Oct 2012, 20:47
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Understatement of the Year

Or can you do better?

A spokesman said such collisions were "fairly rare" and an inquiry has begun.

BBC News - Cruiser collides with nuclear sub off US East Coast
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 21:28
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So a "state of the art" cruiser didn't know there was a sub within 200mtrs. Real confidence-boosting stuff.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 21:32
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The same comment also applies to the sub I would have thought.
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Perhaps more so for the latter?
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 21:56
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In shallower waters or anomalous water conditions, especially odd temperature gradients or saltiness variations, sonar performance can be seriously degraded. Add in that both ships may have been sneaking around at low revs looking for each other, and this kind of thing is possible without anyone having screwed up.
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I heard that USS San Jaciento (cruiser, ticonderoga class) and USS Montpellier (sub, Los Angeles class) were training for ASW operations.

USS Montpellier went to periscope depth, stuck up its periscope and the lookouts on USS San Jaciento spotted it...OOD ordered full back, but collision happened.

Shirt happens when you play for keeps. IF sonar were perfect things might b e different...but it isn't.

and for you british types, Montpellier is the capital of the state of vermont...san jaciento a famous battle.

back in ww2, our subs were named for sea creatures, cruisers for cities. things have changed...attack subs for cities, missile subs for states and cruisers for battles

no injuries, both ships are maneuvering under own power.

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Shouldn't that be manoeuvering?

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Come on, he hasn't learnt to use capital letters yet, so spelling correctly is a long way off
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so spelling correctly is a long way off
Yes. For the record, there's no "e" in San Jacinto and only one "l" in Montpelier.

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That's the shirtiest spelling I've seen in a long time....
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and for you british types, Montpellier is the capital of the state of vermont
A place so important that the French named a city just South of here after it
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Shouldn't that be manoeuvering?

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Err, no. It should be manoeuvring.
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Can't happen in the Royal Navy. There are no cruisers.
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Old 15th Oct 2012, 09:15
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The last time I saw the TICONDEROGA (same Class) in Pompey, she was still a Destroyer. My, how quickly they grow up.
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Actually, there are three battles of San Jacinto. The one I presume Sevenstrokeroll is referring to is the battle of 1836, which ironically didn't involve the United States. It was fought between Mexico and the Republic of Texas, which didn't become part of the USA until 1846. I stand ready to be corrected; my American history isn't up to par.
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The last time I saw the TICONDEROGA (same Class) in Pompey, she was still a Destroyer. My, how quickly they grow up.
The US Navy calls it a cruiser. The US Navy -- Fact File: Cruisers - CG
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9,600 tons would, I guess, make it a "cruiser"
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Old 15th Oct 2012, 16:14
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So a "state of the art" cruiser didn't know there was a sub within 200mtrs. Real confidence-boosting stuff.
The Sub got itself run over by a Target....and it is the Target's fault?

I would submit it was a Tie as to which side was at fault!
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I don't know who told GBZ Tico was a destroyer... while that class were called destroyers during their planning and when Congress authorized them, they were redesignated as Guided Missile Cruisers (CG) on January 1, 1980... before the first keel was laid (21 January 1980).

Only the lead ship was formally ordered as a DDG... the other 26 were ordered in 1981 & later as CGs.

They were called cruisers when they were built, and they have been called cruisers ever since.

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Old 15th Oct 2012, 19:39
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Why here?

Maybe it's just me....but what the hell has this to do with "Military Aircrew"?
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