A330 AAR Boom Goes AWOL

[air pig]

The UAE one in Almeira had its boom firmly attached when I saw it last week, but it was on the ground.

[brokenlink]

YG - 27000 pies?, wonder the thing got airborne in the first place!

[BEagle]

The UAE one in Almeira had its boom firmly attached when I saw it last week, but it was on the ground.

Rumour has it that, although it moved rapidly and uncontrollably to both lateral limits, it did actually remain attached this time.....

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

the system fell away at the point where it links to the fuselage..........

Nutloose!

Where were you on or about the 10th September? and it had better be good...

[smujsmith]

As an aside, we in the hamlet of Pig on't Hill, were treated to Her Majesties Voyager accompanied by 3 Tornado's, making lots of noise at about 4000 ft yesterday (26 June). Nice to see, and I took it that they had been off refuelling somewhere ?

Smudge

[Indicating Full]

Smuj,

What you saw was probably the Italian 767 which had spent the night at Brize.

Hope it made you feel proud anyhow.

IF

[mini]

What scenario makes it necessary for the UAE to need three tankers for anyway?

[BOAC]

WW3 perhaps?

[D-IFF_ident]

Good point mini. They probably need 7.

[smujsmith]

Indicating Full,

Thanks for that mate, it had the usual howl of the Voyager descending towards Brize, quickly drowned out by the "rage" of the three Tonkas. At my age knowing one "airliner" from another is getting to be hard work

Certainly, anything with a Royal Air Force roundel on it, gets a full beam of pride from me (no, facetious nous intended). Thanks again for that info.

Smudge

[TEEEJ]

Smudge,

See following for images of the Italian KC-767 and Italian Tornados landing at Brize.

Flickr: Dan Partlett's Photostream

[falcon10]

Heard this plane was/is doing regular runs to the west coast USA from UAE-UK Do they do training out there?

[FoxtrotAlpha18]

The four RAAF KC-30s in service at AMB are not using the boom and probably wont until next year. If one were to have come close to separating, it may have been on 001 which remains in Spain with Airbus...

[BEagle]

The four RAAF KC-30s in service at AMB are not using the boom and probably wont until next year.

And how are they getting on with the Mission Planning System now? Working fine, is it?

[FoxtrotAlpha18]

I can neither confirm nor deny that, but I especially can't confirm it!

[rjtjrt]

A question. From the figures I can find, standard empty weight plus max fuel takes the MRTT up to max Take Off Weight.
Is that correct?
John

[BEagle]

AiM used to quote a typical AAR OEW for the A330MRTT (including 6 crew, pods, boom and mil. avionics) of 124849 kg. Given an MTOW of 233000 kg, that means a maximum of 108151 kg of fuel at take-off.

However, the Voyager doesn't have the heavy boom, so it's probably just possible to carry 111 tonnes of fuel given the typical OEW.....

[TorqueOfTheDevil]

the Voyager doesn't have the heavy boom

Nor does the A330MRTT

[rjtjrt]

Next question
According to Wiki
A330-200 - MTOW is 240,000kg
A330 MRTT - MTOW is 233,000kg.
Why the difference?

[alisoncc]

Probably the row of canons down each side