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How common is it for a RAF helicopter pilot to be asked to do the training to become a Qualified when they only one post in as a pilot (about three yrs tour) ?
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How common is it for a helicopter pilot to be asked to do the training to become a Qualified when they only one post in as a pilot (about three yrs tour) ?
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Yes I think that is what meant say, BBadanov.
I am sorry poorly written question.
Qualified Flying Instructor (QFI)
Is there qualification to be a Helicopter Flying Instructor?
I am sorry poorly written question.
Qualified Flying Instructor (QFI)
Is there qualification to be a Helicopter Flying Instructor?
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I have a feeling spusa (who is american) may be wondering if the brits, who have creamies instructing fixed wing students in the RAF, have the same system on rotary training. As far as I know they don't and I can understand the reasons why not.
Coming the same day as Pilot Instructor RAF - The Student Roomthis thread from another forum, with the OP having the same location... seems a bit too much of a coincidence. WUM.
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Coincidence? No. Looks like the same bloke.
But so what? Could he be a luking journo? Gosh!
What is so sensitive about the RAF QFI and QHI system that generates yet another conspiracy theory when someone asks a simple question about it?
But so what? Could he be a luking journo? Gosh!
What is so sensitive about the RAF QFI and QHI system that generates yet another conspiracy theory when someone asks a simple question about it?
Or he is the same muppet that started the "Are Royals really pilots" thread (casting doubt over whether Capt Wales was a proper Apache pilot or not - thread deleted I believe) given that F/L Wales may be instructing next tour (as reported throughout the media over the last few weeks).
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So you're saying you are a girl, who lives in California & isn't that bright?
If you happen to be blonde, could you please post a picture....
PS. Just spotted you're "curious" too.... even better.
If you happen to be blonde, could you please post a picture....
PS. Just spotted you're "curious" too.... even better.
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Spusa,
Things may have changed these days but from my own career path I'd say it's not too unusual for an RAF helicopter pilot to become a Qualified Helicopter Instructor (QHI) after completing his/her first operational tour.
The QHI course is a formal course run by Central Flying School (Helicopters).
I was posted to CFS(H) to have my brain removed (as RAF folk say) after my first RAF tour finished in 1983.
Things may have changed these days but from my own career path I'd say it's not too unusual for an RAF helicopter pilot to become a Qualified Helicopter Instructor (QHI) after completing his/her first operational tour.
The QHI course is a formal course run by Central Flying School (Helicopters).
I was posted to CFS(H) to have my brain removed (as RAF folk say) after my first RAF tour finished in 1983.
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As far as I know they don't and I can understand the reasons why not.
Whereas the ones who end up on heliwopters are often those that didn't quite crack the 'how to do it' course, so may not be the best to try and teach the 'how to do it' course to others on helicopters.
Having watched one crash, it seems there is quite some skill required keeping all those rotating bits going in the correct direction, hence not utilising new inexperienced guys as QHI's seems a good status quo to keep.
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OK - I'll bite! Leaving aside the (monkey see monkey do?) skill question, one major reason for no rotary creamies is - as LongTime suggests - that "Helicopters is Different".
And also it is invariably something of a culture shock for first-timers! Hence there has never been a "RWXO Course" - anyone transferring - whatever their background - does the full ab initio course, and even Bona Mates with mega-hours on FJ don't always obviously excel.
Moreover, in pursuit of the "Helicopters is Different" theme, operational applications of handling techniques are also inserted at every stage; clearly an impossibility for a creamie.
Most importantly, the philosophy of rotary operations is inculcated from the start - skills which are mental rather than manual. Remember that the SH RW first tourist will be flying (for example) night LL ops as a singleton far removed from his authoriser/supervisor. His FJ mates might just be leading a pair by then - with the QWI as his No2. And as Flt Lt Wales demonstrates, an Op Captain (first tourist) on SAR makes his own decisions when most of us are stacking to the bar in "bird-walking" weather..
And also it is invariably something of a culture shock for first-timers! Hence there has never been a "RWXO Course" - anyone transferring - whatever their background - does the full ab initio course, and even Bona Mates with mega-hours on FJ don't always obviously excel.
Moreover, in pursuit of the "Helicopters is Different" theme, operational applications of handling techniques are also inserted at every stage; clearly an impossibility for a creamie.
Most importantly, the philosophy of rotary operations is inculcated from the start - skills which are mental rather than manual. Remember that the SH RW first tourist will be flying (for example) night LL ops as a singleton far removed from his authoriser/supervisor. His FJ mates might just be leading a pair by then - with the QWI as his No2. And as Flt Lt Wales demonstrates, an Op Captain (first tourist) on SAR makes his own decisions when most of us are stacking to the bar in "bird-walking" weather..
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