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Old 8th Aug 2012, 16:52
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He's not photoshopped in IMO, also he does have shadows 2 o'clock from his feet, similar to the wheel.

Still think it's a film prop though.
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Lighting deffo looks kosher !

Diffused lighting bouncing all over the place, produces exactly the type of shadow we see behind the legs !

Saved, opened and enlarged in PS shows not much going on in "cockpit" or "crewspace"

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A couple of other photos and information here plus a link to another thread
with someone who supposedly worked on the film.

Stealth Helicopter Or Movie Prop? | aviationintel
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 17:54
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They dressed up a Gazelle for blue thunder so why not something similar for this film?
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The photograph is as genuine as a politicians promise at election time.
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Specialist Fourth Class rank emblem.....about equal to Corporal.

The shoulder patch being on the Left Shoulder indicates current unit assignment is Korea Advisory Command.

Those are probably Crew Chief Wings on his chest....based upon his rank.

But definitely not a pilot....not an Officer.

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I thought the shoulder patch on the left shoulder was the
29th Infantry Division shoulder patch.

I couldn't find a link to the Korean Advisory Command.

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 20:48
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Could very well be....and would make more sense than the Korea Advisory Command...both have the same design....wonder what colors the patches are when not subdued.

Found this....
Current organization



Structure 29th Infantry Division
The 29th Infantry Division exercises Training and Readiness Oversight of the following elements, they cannot be considered organic:


29th Infantry Division Special Troops Battalion
Headquarters and Headquarters Company
29th Infantry Division Band

30th Heavy Brigade Combat Team (NC NG)
1st Squadron, 150th Cavalry Regiment
1st Battalion, 252nd Armor Regiment
1st Battalion, 120th Infantry Regiment
1st Battalion, 113th Field Artillery Regiment
230th Brigade Support Battalion
Special Troops Battalion


116th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (VA NG)
2nd Squadron, 183rd Cavalry Regiment
1st Battalion, 116th Infantry Regiment
3rd Battalion, 116th Infantry Regiment
1st Battalion, 111th Field Artillery Regiment
429th Brigade Support Battalion
Special Troops Battalion

Combat Aviation Brigade, 29th Infantry Division (MD NG)
1st Battalion, 285th Aviation Regiment
2nd Battalion, 224th Aviation Regiment
2nd Battalion, 229th Aviation Regiment
1st Battalion, 111th Aviation Regiment
1204th Aviation Support Battalion
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Yes, that's it. Famous unit.


I think from memory that the 29th patch is a light Blue and something else.
I'll go and have a look.
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A book was written about the "Bedford Boys" that recounts the the 116th Infantry's experience in being the first ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day.

There is a monument in Bedford, Virginia that is a must see if one is in the area. It is reported they took 95% casualties within 15 minutes after hitting the beach with almost every single family in Bedford losing someone that one day.

Four companies from the 116th comprised the first wave: Companies A, E, F, and G, with Company A actually being the first American unit to land in occupied France.


As the LCAs drew closer to the beach, German artillery and mortar fire grew increasingly heavier, and several boats were hit and sunk before making it to the beach. As the boats ground to a halt and dropped their ramps, the men of the 116th were exposed to withering machine gun fire, and they were helpless as they waded ashore. Within fifteen minutes all of the officers and most of the NCOs of Company A were killed or wounded with one exception, and the rest of the company suffered over 60% casualties.


The rest of the regiment faired little better as the Germans swept Omaha Beach with artillery and small arms fire. As reinforcements from the 29th Infantry Division were landed, the Germans could no longer hold back the tide of GIs, and the 116th with its sister 115th Infantry Regiment, and the 2nd and 5th Ranger Battalions, was able to fight its way to the bluffs above the beach. The victory was at a high cost, for the regiment suffered 341 casualties (most of them from Co. A).

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The 29th ID patch is Blue & Grey.
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Looks way too small for a load of fat Alabamans and their 'special' forces accent, almost gazelle small.

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 22:53
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From what I've read - the real Stealth Hawk does have a faceted fuselage, because it was developed around the time that the F117 was introduced into service - and as an earlier poster observed, computers at the time lacked the power to model continuously curved surfaces, such as found on the B2.
Actually knew a gentleman from the US who in a previous life worked as a civilian contractor maintaining military wokkas. One night after a few drinks, he claimed to have maintained said aircraft - and he quietly described them as "...looking quite like an F117."
BTW - the comments on that movie blog with the other photos give a true insight into the level of drop-kickery found amongst the average SPAM.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 22:53
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Son of Airwolf

Is the pilot Stringfellow Hawke? Movie Prop.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 00:00
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Stealth design is constrained by computing power which can also take a lot of time and so moolah, summat the 'tards are not short of.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 09:29
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Look closely at the image and I think there are some signs of Photoshopping. I'm not even sure that structure exists in the flesh.
It has definitely been edited in Photoshop CS3, as it says so in the EXIF data. The date also matches that printed on the photo, but that means nothing as the date/time on the camera it was taken with could have been set to anything.

I can't comment on the degree of editing though - it may have been just to blur the face.

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Old 9th Aug 2012, 09:56
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More likely a random snap of whatever it is.

Shot on a Nikon Coolpix 58100.

Hardly high spec equipment
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 10:07
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Just a couple of blurs. Error level analysis shows everything was in the picture when it was taken, compression fingerprinting shows the S8100 and Photoshop CS3 (both match the EXIF info) and Photoshop save quality 12, which you can't get from the EXIF info.

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Old 9th Aug 2012, 12:20
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All this saliva dripping over a single photograph of a purported Stealth Black Hawk.....and you British Military guys don't have the first ordinary Blackhawk in your inventory and are having to make do with geriatric Puma's still.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 12:52
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Look at the rotor head, where the blades attach to the grips.

Square, with corners.

Not bloody likely.

Prop.
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