RAFFT:- Goalpost change.
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"Without prejudice, it is fair to say that the bleep test breaks knees and either the Rockport walk for all or a faster (time only) version of the same based on a track would be far better received by all."
Erm, no. I for one much prefer the bleep test. It's perfectly paced and much easier to judge than the old mile and a half plod and I find that the short sprint, turn and accelerate is much better suited to me. As for breaking knees, I don't think that 8 or 9 mins twice a year is going to make that much difference.
I'm no racing snake and I have to admit I need to train regularly in order to pass the bleep test (press-ups and sit-up are a doddle and should be increased
) so, in that respect the fitness strategy works for me. I have started participating in more sport, just like I used to when I was younger, which is also a good thing. However, the unfortunate outcome is that the part of my brain that still thinks it's a teenager gets control of my body and doesn't take care of it. I end up trying to comepete with those who have far fewer miles on the clock and inevitably something goes twang. So, am I fitter, definitely. Am I healthier, no, I'm broken 
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Erm, no. I for one much prefer the bleep test. It's perfectly paced and much easier to judge than the old mile and a half plod and I find that the short sprint, turn and accelerate is much better suited to me. As for breaking knees, I don't think that 8 or 9 mins twice a year is going to make that much difference.
I'm no racing snake and I have to admit I need to train regularly in order to pass the bleep test (press-ups and sit-up are a doddle and should be increased
) so, in that respect the fitness strategy works for me. I have started participating in more sport, just like I used to when I was younger, which is also a good thing. However, the unfortunate outcome is that the part of my brain that still thinks it's a teenager gets control of my body and doesn't take care of it. I end up trying to comepete with those who have far fewer miles on the clock and inevitably something goes twang. So, am I fitter, definitely. Am I healthier, no, I'm broken Bear
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Without prejudice, it is fair to say that the bleep test breaks knees and either the Rockport walk for all or a faster (time only) version of the same based on a track would be far better received by all.
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Thats what i love about Pprune - if you comment the sky is blue a million pedants will post to tell you it is actually mauve, then the grammer police get involved.
A fitter service is a better service - agreed?
Is the beepy test the best way of judging - I'd say no BUT there has to be a subjective measure of fitness in a discipline to assess your fitness.
As to the Det dogers - I got downgraded and told I could not go on ops - I ended up PVR'ing as I was in effect bed blocking and making my mates carry my load. There has to be a better way of dealing with old fat lazy chiefs who don't deploy and cost a lot of money and effort.....
What was that quote from Churchill about an RAF station being a Bastion of Fighting Airmen - not a camp of uniformed civves living it up and being guarded by soldiers?
To the Gym - away you go....
A fitter service is a better service - agreed?
Is the beepy test the best way of judging - I'd say no BUT there has to be a subjective measure of fitness in a discipline to assess your fitness.
As to the Det dogers - I got downgraded and told I could not go on ops - I ended up PVR'ing as I was in effect bed blocking and making my mates carry my load. There has to be a better way of dealing with old fat lazy chiefs who don't deploy and cost a lot of money and effort.....
What was that quote from Churchill about an RAF station being a Bastion of Fighting Airmen - not a camp of uniformed civves living it up and being guarded by soldiers?
To the Gym - away you go....
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The gym can burn in hell for all I care, as can all the gym queens.
I don't much like the smell of stale cigarettes, but it beats sweat any day.
Never liked the fact some squash playing fool could go to the bar for a drink covered in sweat, whilst someone dressed in clean jeans got a reception akin to if he'd trodden dog's muck into the mess carpet.
Glad to leave all this utter ballocks behind.
I don't much like the smell of stale cigarettes, but it beats sweat any day.
Never liked the fact some squash playing fool could go to the bar for a drink covered in sweat, whilst someone dressed in clean jeans got a reception akin to if he'd trodden dog's muck into the mess carpet.
Glad to leave all this utter ballocks behind.
Last edited by Willard Whyte; 9th Aug 2012 at 16:59.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
First, I have never had to do either the bleep test or the bike test or the hand grip. I think I would have failed the bleep test several years before I retired the first time.
The test is a one-size fits all. As we served we all experienced wear and tear in different ways and to different degrees. In my case it was the back. About 4 years after the last of the quarterly fitness runs I was running across the dispersal. My back went. I had to come to a halt as rapidly as possible albeit quite slowly. I was then able to walk. This used to happen from time to time and sometimes I would be bed ridden. It didn't however stop me doing 6-months OOA.
It is true I did not have the basic standard of fitness the whole time but I was still able to do my job. Therein lies the rub. There are many that are capable of doing their job, and more, but are not fully combat fit. If everyone in that category was discharged the pensions bill would be astronomical, the operational load on the fit would possible double and there would be a knock on effect on retention.
The test is a one-size fits all. As we served we all experienced wear and tear in different ways and to different degrees. In my case it was the back. About 4 years after the last of the quarterly fitness runs I was running across the dispersal. My back went. I had to come to a halt as rapidly as possible albeit quite slowly. I was then able to walk. This used to happen from time to time and sometimes I would be bed ridden. It didn't however stop me doing 6-months OOA.
It is true I did not have the basic standard of fitness the whole time but I was still able to do my job. Therein lies the rub. There are many that are capable of doing their job, and more, but are not fully combat fit. If everyone in that category was discharged the pensions bill would be astronomical, the operational load on the fit would possible double and there would be a knock on effect on retention.
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DO NOT RUN ON THEM
Result was much pain and my foot even worse. (Dread cold damp weather in Winter when I had do go out on many mile bike rides). Those who crow about their prowess should think about those of us who used to be very fit but injury caused by sport has left its mark.
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