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yeah but how many people actually responded? Not even a working majority of the Catholic population - even after a full on campaign by the various churches
just the usual bigots in fact
I suspect there are more gays in Scotland than church goers anyway
just the usual bigots in fact
I suspect there are more gays in Scotland than church goers anyway
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Two thirds of 80,000 people consulted were against it. Just the usual bigots? Looks to me to be a sufficient number to allow a full referendum at least.
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1.5% of the population were interested enough to have responded, 1% of the population are against it with enough vehemence to say so, and we think that's worthy of a full referendum?
Therefore: 80,000 = 100%
Therefore: Against = 66%
For = 34%
So yes, I would rate that result as justifying a full referendum of the "Population"
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Referendum?
Nobody polled me or anybody I that know in these parts whether we approved or not. Mind you, not a lot of Catholics or Wee Frees around here. As for more Gays than church goers that is probably true. They've turned all the churches into night clubs anyway - I assume they have 'Gay nights'?.
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That has to be the world champion example of thread drift.
Why? Airpolice was answering an existing post however inaccurate it was. Or was that original poster also guilty of thread drift?
CONSULTED = those who sent in a something during the consultation open period = usual bigots
Heathrow Harry - you aren't Gordon Brown are you - he was the last person to make a fool of himself by classing someone as a bigot because she spoke commonsense.
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Firstly, the consultation is not a referendum. There are reasons given for or against Equal marriage. Therefore the reasons given can be assessed. "I'm a raging homophobe" is not a sufficiently convincing argument.
Second, the information that was available to the government to make this decision did not only come from the consultation. There have also been polls and they have consistently shown 65% support for Equal marriage. Why can't the bigots just accept that this is the 21st century. The majority want this. A church led postcard campaign cannot stop what is meant to be.
In 20 years, on this issue, people will look back upon the Catholic Church as we now look upon those racists who would not allow equal rights for Blacks, or those who would not allow equal rights for women. Anyone care to declare that only the straight white man may vote?
And yes, this is a helluva swing off topic. Abraham, I reckon your research carries some weight, made for very interesting reading!
Second, the information that was available to the government to make this decision did not only come from the consultation. There have also been polls and they have consistently shown 65% support for Equal marriage. Why can't the bigots just accept that this is the 21st century. The majority want this. A church led postcard campaign cannot stop what is meant to be.
In 20 years, on this issue, people will look back upon the Catholic Church as we now look upon those racists who would not allow equal rights for Blacks, or those who would not allow equal rights for women. Anyone care to declare that only the straight white man may vote?
And yes, this is a helluva swing off topic. Abraham, I reckon your research carries some weight, made for very interesting reading!
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I have the grave misfortune to live north of the border and find this whole thing depressing its so Typical of the SNP and cybernats.
It's a consultation not a referendum blah blah blah
Can't wait to see what they say when the results of their consultation on independence comes out (which by the way received far fewer responses than that on that than gay marriage) bet they don't ignore it like the westminsters one.
To get back to the original thread, where are they going to get The crews from?
Where are they going to train them? ( very expensive to set up a training system if south of the border then we, and I speak as an Englishman, can charge what we want). Where will they maintain them, st athan?
I knew Angus Robertson very well at university, the phrase 'not a clue' comes to mind, last time a saw him, we had a "debate" (on which I was obviously wrong as you can't disagree with the SNP about anything) he told me I knew nothing about it, I was still serving at the time and pointed out 16 years in military aviation may give me an insight, no he said I was just a minion, know nothing and are English so have no say, How can you have a sensible debate with that.........other than yes I do have a say as I live here
Tell me wheres good to live in northern England should Salmonds utopia become a reality, god forbid.......
It's a consultation not a referendum blah blah blah
Can't wait to see what they say when the results of their consultation on independence comes out (which by the way received far fewer responses than that on that than gay marriage) bet they don't ignore it like the westminsters one.
To get back to the original thread, where are they going to get The crews from?
Where are they going to train them? ( very expensive to set up a training system if south of the border then we, and I speak as an Englishman, can charge what we want). Where will they maintain them, st athan?
I knew Angus Robertson very well at university, the phrase 'not a clue' comes to mind, last time a saw him, we had a "debate" (on which I was obviously wrong as you can't disagree with the SNP about anything) he told me I knew nothing about it, I was still serving at the time and pointed out 16 years in military aviation may give me an insight, no he said I was just a minion, know nothing and are English so have no say, How can you have a sensible debate with that.........other than yes I do have a say as I live here
Tell me wheres good to live in northern England should Salmonds utopia become a reality, god forbid.......
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Airpolice,
Only a two one honours degree in Engineering I'm afraid, so sorry my English has upset you old boy.
Rather than having a go, why not answer the question, assuming you have them that is.
Only a two one honours degree in Engineering I'm afraid, so sorry my English has upset you old boy.
Rather than having a go, why not answer the question, assuming you have them that is.
Getting ever further from the thread subject, but some contributors are forgetting that this sort of thing is also being proposed at UK level. If you don't like it, there is no point just railing at Salmond and the SNP.
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and you know like a lot of things the sky will not fall on our heads
in the last few years the following have been tagged as "the end of life as we know it"
all day drinking
smoking bans
gays in the military
seat belts
women afloat in the RN
a woman Prime Minister
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday
women priests (CofE)
and oddly enough a couple of years later no-one can imagine what the fuss was about
in the last few years the following have been tagged as "the end of life as we know it"
all day drinking
smoking bans
gays in the military
seat belts
women afloat in the RN
a woman Prime Minister
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday
women priests (CofE)
and oddly enough a couple of years later no-one can imagine what the fuss was about
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Sky falling in?
Don't forget motorcycle crash helmets. I still meet people who think it should be their right or not to wear helmet. Fair enough if they sign a waiver to forego any emergency or theraputic treatment after a sudden meeting with planet earth.
They would never argue about their right or not to wear a seabelt on Squeezy Jet.....would they?.
They would never argue about their right or not to wear a seabelt on Squeezy Jet.....would they?.
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in the last few years the following have been tagged as "the end of life as we know it"
all day drinking
smoking bans
gays in the military
seat belts
women afloat in the RN
a woman Prime Minister
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday
women priests (CofE)
all day drinking
smoking bans
gays in the military
seat belts
women afloat in the RN
a woman Prime Minister
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday
women priests (CofE)
but (by your yardstick) of course I must be one of the "usual bigots"
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depends how old you are dear boy.................
"a thousand ages in your sight are like an evening gone" when you're my age..........
and just go back and look what people said at the time - the Beeb looked into a couple of them a year back and a few people were honest enough to say that maybe they had gone a bit OTT at the time
"a thousand ages in your sight are like an evening gone" when you're my age..........
and just go back and look what people said at the time - the Beeb looked into a couple of them a year back and a few people were honest enough to say that maybe they had gone a bit OTT at the time
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Whilst I take your points (and they are well made & valid), things are never that simple, Harry.
all day drinking - we don't actually have that and a lot of pubs find it non-profitable so close in the afternoons.
smoking bans - did make a big difference to most pubs, but has been overtaken by other influences.
gays in the military - there have always been gays in the military.
seat belts - who am I to argue. I always thought they were a good thing when flying.
women afloat in the RN - ah. Women flot better than men
a woman Prime Minister - regrdless of my opinion, I understand the jury's still out on that one.
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday - it's still less expensive to buy it when you get there.
women priests (CofE) - many think it's still wrong.
I'd rather be flying. Even if it is with an alcoholic, smoking, RN navigtor (or whatever!) lady that refuses to strap in properly, has delusions about running the country, giving communion and that smuggles money abroad. As long as she can fix the kit on recovery.
all day drinking - we don't actually have that and a lot of pubs find it non-profitable so close in the afternoons.
smoking bans - did make a big difference to most pubs, but has been overtaken by other influences.
gays in the military - there have always been gays in the military.
seat belts - who am I to argue. I always thought they were a good thing when flying.
women afloat in the RN - ah. Women flot better than men
a woman Prime Minister - regrdless of my opinion, I understand the jury's still out on that one.
allowing people to take foreign currency on holiday - it's still less expensive to buy it when you get there.
women priests (CofE) - many think it's still wrong.
I'd rather be flying. Even if it is with an alcoholic, smoking, RN navigtor (or whatever!) lady that refuses to strap in properly, has delusions about running the country, giving communion and that smuggles money abroad. As long as she can fix the kit on recovery.
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