Prince William and the RAF
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I wrote:
Which was followed by
I don't see what was cheap about stating the obvious. He is destined for the very top, and may well he deserve it. Sometimes people just go looking for the negatives in a posting.
In truth think he's one of the good guys
Cheap shot alison
there was still a slot on the 1369 for 'not yet fit'
Looking at it from the outside: It is so valuable to have the top guys get inside knowledge about the armed forces. Those backgrounds will enable them to decide future stuff in your favour as they will know the other side as well.
They could just hang around parties all day long but prefer to seriously work. Telling you from a republic's perspective: A monarchy gives more to you than it takes.
They could just hang around parties all day long but prefer to seriously work. Telling you from a republic's perspective: A monarchy gives more to you than it takes.
Looking at it from the outside: It is so valuable to have the top guys get inside knowledge about the armed forces. Those backgrounds will enable them to decide future stuff in your favour as they will know the other side as well.
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this ridiculous time consuming course
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Your Royal Highness, if you are following this, I do apologise for the thread drift. I am sure that if I had completed the ISS course when I had the privilege of flying ‘The Firm’ I could have ‘crossed’ the threshold and ‘dotted’ the centreline a little more competently. I felt that concentrating on my MBA studies was beneficial than struggling with service writing. I had a secretary who put my notes into the correct form.
Despite this, I have just published book about getting ‘Out of the Rat Race’. My editor said it was more like a military report than a book and had to practically re-write it. So obviously something rubbed off.
I have the honour to be, etc, etc…
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Despite this, I have just published book about getting ‘Out of the Rat Race’. My editor said it was more like a military report than a book and had to practically re-write it. So obviously something rubbed off.
I have the honour to be, etc, etc…
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When I was at uni later in life one of my tutors told me it was evident I had been in the services, as my essays were always to the point and devoid of unnecessary verbiage. The "cut out the c**p" style of service writing had obviously stuck, and unlike Exascot's editor, my tutors generally approved of it.
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I have just published book
Let's be generous - mind moving faster than your fingers over the keyboard.
Was this your personal weapon by any chance Exascot?
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And isn't Exascot advertising in contravention of Pprune Ts & Cs ??
I was never very good with shooters Sisemen (ask the range Sgt!) I take my shots from this:
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No, I didn't put the title and if you look in Amazon
I have just published book about getting ‘Out of the Rat Race’.
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denotes banter - the most important weapon the helicopter force possesses!3. Apologies for thread drift YRH (if reading) [more
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Given that the original question was about promotion to sqn ldr (sorry, what's the opposite of thread drift?). As aircrew, in addition to the appropriate staff courses, I believe he needs an "above average in the air" tick on his OJAR.
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Some nasty remarks about the boys drifting in from certain parties, envy I wonder
Think a little, if you were a Royal would you want to give your chosen career mates the chance of saying you bypassed the exams. Given they are not difficult and they have a fair amount of alert time to study wouldn't it be much brighter to be able to say you had passed on merrit
So by implying they would screw the system you are also saying they are stupid, all the signs are this is not the case
Perhaps the critic just wished he could amount to something beyond snide remarks about his betters
Think a little, if you were a Royal would you want to give your chosen career mates the chance of saying you bypassed the exams. Given they are not difficult and they have a fair amount of alert time to study wouldn't it be much brighter to be able to say you had passed on merrit
So by implying they would screw the system you are also saying they are stupid, all the signs are this is not the case
Perhaps the critic just wished he could amount to something beyond snide remarks about his betters
PN,
While I don't wish to be a party pooper....you said in post 10....
"Around 1975 the RAF abandoned the last of its promotion exams. "...
Well I took the C exam in either late 86 or 87, I'm not sure which, but I certainly took the C exam (as a bet as it so happens) during my second flying tour (86-89), and I didn't join until well after 1975!!!
I went to a roadshow about officer training a few years ago (ironically enough I think it was called ROAD), where they had a slide showing the staff training requirements to qualify for promotion from Flt Lt to Sqn Ldr, i.e. JOCL or JODL 1 and 2 or whatever it is, and the path for the old school "legacy" candidates (an ironic phrase I thought, given that there had only been 1 or 2 of the new IOTs so far, so the "legacy" represented about 99% of current candidates). My qualifications were so old, C exam and OCC (yes OCC, not JOCC) that I didn't even feature on their radar... Dinosaur or what. I think that, having once been qualified for promotion in terms of "staff training", I no longer am. You won't be surprised to hear that this situation doesn't keep me awake at night....
While I don't wish to be a party pooper....you said in post 10....
"Around 1975 the RAF abandoned the last of its promotion exams. "...
Well I took the C exam in either late 86 or 87, I'm not sure which, but I certainly took the C exam (as a bet as it so happens) during my second flying tour (86-89), and I didn't join until well after 1975!!!
I went to a roadshow about officer training a few years ago (ironically enough I think it was called ROAD), where they had a slide showing the staff training requirements to qualify for promotion from Flt Lt to Sqn Ldr, i.e. JOCL or JODL 1 and 2 or whatever it is, and the path for the old school "legacy" candidates (an ironic phrase I thought, given that there had only been 1 or 2 of the new IOTs so far, so the "legacy" represented about 99% of current candidates). My qualifications were so old, C exam and OCC (yes OCC, not JOCC) that I didn't even feature on their radar... Dinosaur or what. I think that, having once been qualified for promotion in terms of "staff training", I no longer am. You won't be surprised to hear that this situation doesn't keep me awake at night....
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I took the C Exam in 84 and was promoted in 85 - they scrapped it at that point! I think I sat one of the last, if not the last C exams.
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Me too.
Sat the exam in the Education Centre at Akrotiri, in 1984.
Posted back to UK on acting promotion, re-ranked uniform, took over as oc squadron, received blue letter. Then Wg Cdr said no to my promotion - lots of hassle - retained the acting rank, got posted.
Worked for a notorious Stn Cdr who was a big fat bully and tormented me at every opportunity. In the end though he recommended my substantive promotion. I hate him and I love him.
Rgds SOS
Sat the exam in the Education Centre at Akrotiri, in 1984.
Posted back to UK on acting promotion, re-ranked uniform, took over as oc squadron, received blue letter. Then Wg Cdr said no to my promotion - lots of hassle - retained the acting rank, got posted.
Worked for a notorious Stn Cdr who was a big fat bully and tormented me at every opportunity. In the end though he recommended my substantive promotion. I hate him and I love him.
Rgds SOS
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Biggus, OK I accept that, it was 27 years ago
All I know is I wasted my time although it did have it brighter moments.
I was sitting next to a chap who didn't put pen to paper in the whole exam. I was later his escort officer at his court martial. He got off on a charge of sexual assault but left the Service shortly thereafter. The alleged offence took place the day before the exam. His performance in the C was not noted.
All I know is I wasted my time although it did have it brighter moments.
I was sitting next to a chap who didn't put pen to paper in the whole exam. I was later his escort officer at his court martial
. He got off on a charge of sexual assault but left the Service shortly thereafter. The alleged offence took place the day before the exam. His performance in the C was not noted.
C exams?....
....then there was the chap of the maritime persuasion who waited the obligatory? 20 mins? Then wrote "intentionally blank" in the middle of each page,back and front. Then walked out.
The Ancient Mariner
(The staish did give him a monumental bollocking.)
The Ancient Mariner
(The staish did give him a monumental bollocking.)