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'Remote' RAF radar station in S.E. England?

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Old 12th Apr 2012, 09:33
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'Remote' RAF radar station in S.E. England?

The RAF website shows a Chinook lifting a mobile radar to a 'remote' hilltop for the Olympics. Nice cushty posting?
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<<The kit will be used to give the RAF’s air traffic controllers a complete picture of all low level aircraft movements on the London approaches.>>

I wonder why?
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So the nation doesn't normally have this capability and now it's justified due to an overblown, over-priced school sports day ?
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olympic Radar

Good to see that there are others out there that do not worship at the alter of the olympics.
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If you apply the two most commonly offered dictionary definitions:

situated a long way away;
far away from civilization, society, or any other populated area

it is hard to visualise where such a hilltop is situated in the south east of the country that would facilitate adequate radar coverage of the approaches to any London airport.

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As the CAA mentioned in a November 2011 press release:

Next summer Atlas Control, the RAF's air traffic service for the [Olympics] Restricted Zone, will be staffed by 50 controllers and 50 air traffic assistants
RAF must be flush with controllers, so where are they all coming from?
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I guess most of the MOB ATC towers will be running a couple of people light this summer.
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50 controllers?? - that's a lot more than were at SCATCC(Mil) when we and the USAF had so many more aircraft.
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so where are they all coming from?
From what I hear LARS units mainly. Expect limited LARS coverage in the rest of the country.
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Temporary reactivation of RAF Ash, a former radar site?
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Temporary reactivation of RAF Ash, a former radar site?
Well, at least it should have good comms links.

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Kenley would be a more sensible location although I don't think you would have to rely upon a CH47 to drop a radar there. I presume we're talking about a mobile Watchman (do they still have them?). I can't see a 101 fitting the bill.
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Funny old world. That was truly a guess although I do recollect a similar discussion a little over a decade back. At the time the ASACS guys quickly figured that they didn't have great low-level coverage in the area. The partial solution involved a military ATC radar and a modem.
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When was the last time the MOD reactivated anything? It seems once the lights go out, that's it. Care and Maintenance my ar$e.
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Amazing. Last time I peeped into London Mil there were about two blokes there! OK, it was 10 years ago, but.....
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Remore Radar

One might ask why Air Traffic Controller's of whom it was once said, by a 2 star "I have finally found the only Branch in the RAF whose utility is directly linked to their postcode! What will they do - give potential terrorists vectors to the target site?!
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Wherever it gets sited, the "Midland Radar overhead" scenario will still be applicable.
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That's the thing about the internet these days. If you take a few minutes to search for the answers they are usually there

Olympics Air Security

1 Air Control Centre (ground-based radar), from RAF Scampton, Lincolnshire.
RAF Scampton - 1 Air Control Centre

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