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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 19:24
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Aircrew gloves

Are aircrew gloves neccessary for others than those who might have to eject? I don't remember Ryanair pilots wearing them.
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....depends what your chances are of a cockpit fire.
I carried on wearing mine at a civvy flight school when my Chief Pilot (ex-RAF also) pointed out that fires were statistically more common in puddlejumpers than fast jets. We all had flight suits for the same reason - comfier than ties and trousers too.
..and if you have ever seen the effects of a cockpit fire on someone without full protective clothing (and I have)....
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I got sent for "a long weight" once. And I went.
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They're aircrew gloves. Without aircrew they are just gloves. Without gloves they are not aircrew. Simples.

You might also ask why plumbers have dirty hands.
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You might also ask why plumbers have dirty hands.
Because the SAC in stores refused to issue 'the last' pair on the shelf?

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Always keep a pair of 'aircrew' gloves with me, just in case I get a flat tyre or some-such.
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My first flying instructor (ex-military who taught me on an air cadet flying scholarship) told me that he used to fly with the bottom of his flying suit sleeves rolled up and the cuffs on his flying gloves rolled down. He had badly scarring around his wrists where he had been burned by a flash fire in the cockpit (Canberra I believe). He used his past injuries to explain why it was not a good idea to fly a Cessna 150 while wearing a short sleeved T-shirt. After that I always flew with gloves whenever practical - even as mission crew in the back of large aircraft.
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Ryan Air flight crew have gloves in the cockpit.. So do all other AOC operated aircraft. Mandatory equipment. All the trolley dolleys have a set too. They are fire proof and fairly meatly. Flight decks also have smoke hoods, escape ropes, fire extinguishers, oxygen masks (fixed & portable), torches, plus the axe!

There is your answer..
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Oh Alber, couldn't you smell the fish?
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The hands are apparently very difficult to graft with any degree of sucess. Far easier to protect them to start off with.

Plus they keep yer 'ands warm during the winter when the 'eater don't work!

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When doing my PPL I used to cringe watching people flying in shorts, short-sleeved shirts etc. Having spent my professional flying career in a flying suit, gloves, the lot (and not sitting in a bang seat, btw) it just seemed wrong.

Further to Wensleydale's post I remember in Singapore a very senior USAF officer came and gave a chat on the importance of wearing gloves correctly. He had crash landed, the aircraft had burned and although he had been wearing gloves he very nearly lost both hands because of the very serious burns around his wrists because he had his sleeves partially rolled up.

I've never been that quick at picking up hidden meanings in posts so I'm not quite sure whats going on with all the fishing references, but if nothing else the original question has prompted some very good flight safety advice, so I'm quite happy to treat it as a serious question!
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Question is from an Armourer..
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If anyone would like a genuine pair of aircrew gloves, worn in combat with a slighly fishy smell, please PM me for the best, top deal, before they go on eBay or Antiques Roadshow for a small fortune.

Good for driving, gardening, barbecuing, car maintenance and avoiding unnecessary chaffing during vigorous excercise.

One quite careful owner. Cash only. No returns.
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Gloves

Courtney,
Black or white?
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Black or white?
..or green? With or without the rubber seal? Come on man, this sh!t matters!
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.or green? With or without the rubber seal? Come on man, this sh!t matters!
As does the "slightly fishy smell" and "combat" bit...

Fess up CM...
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From my experience (extensive in these matters, I might add) Aircrew Gloves (White & real Cape leather in my day) were the finest bartering material an `Orficer` can possibly have. Much to the horror of Squadron Flying Clothing Inventory holders.

As an Engineering authority for them from 85 to 01 I was often amazed at the innovative reasons other (than aircrew) braches & trades would push forward in support of adding them to their particular ensemble....

Perhaps the plumber was one of the unfortunates who had their request turned down? After all, plumbers often had difficulty in obtaining reading glasses and pens, as no one would actually believe they could read and write!

"A- I`m an armourer...B - I`m an armourer ...C - I`m an armourer...."
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In view of the importance of the proper gear in case of fire or need to escape, I was rather surprised to see Philip Hammond on film recently flying in a Sentry in a suit and tie (day of the Olympic security exercise). Or was there a message there somewhere?

EG
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Devil

...that everyone on base would be happy to see him immolated?
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