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The Tank Will Never Replace the Horse!

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Old 27th Apr 2000, 02:40
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James R Swift
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In my day .......

Suffice it to say that while I never flew with a Flight Sergeant Flight Lead, it wasn't that long since such a thing had happened, and it seemed to work fairly well...........
 
Old 1st May 2000, 03:11
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Ah James, nervous is not the question! What you suggest or hint at is not for the individual but for those of us who have reasons deeper!!! 'Deep' I know, but some of us do do it for reasons other than personal comfort. A new service along the lines of the British Defence Helicopter Service would provide for the needs of the UK national interest whilst going the whole way to uniting the helicopter operators of the services to provide the required product! This I feel is what was required rather than the JHC issue that fudged what I feel can only be resolved with time when individual service attitudes and predjudices can be overcome. We already have a joint training setup, a JHC, a DHSU, joint courses, and the will to operate together to provide the desired result, lets go the whole hog!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 1st May 2000, 12:34
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Acorn, I refer you to my post 'what price a Royal Flying Corps'. Could be the way forward, methinks.
 
Old 1st May 2000, 20:46
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Corimec, I agree but I feel the only way ahead is for no particular service to be 'seen to win'. With this in mind the RFC would be associated with Army although the BDHS would be totally impartial. What do you think?
 
Old 2nd May 2000, 00:07
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How about the British Attack and Reaction Force?

I agree Acorn - and it almost certainly will go that way in the future, however I'm worried about now, not when I am lying in some corner of a foreign field.

At the minute, the AAC is still the square peg of the army officer career structure trying to cram itself into the decidedly round hole of flying.

Why don't they just start with a completely clean sheet, and on, say 1st Jan 2002, every one who flies helicopters goes into a new 4th force - allowed to develop its own doctrine, ethos and ridiculous mess rules; where everyone, not just the officers will be entitled to wear barbours and banana cords; where handlebar moustaches are seen as a thing of the past and not some "mad" Sqn Ldr's idea of "dash"; where birds sing in the trees and little children run laughing through the empty hangars because all the serviceable aircraft have gone flying with...

...happy cheerful well motivated crews who don't have to become faceless suits in the MOD until they are at least 45.

...true professionals who are allowed to develop into a coherent fighting force, not dragged away long before they achieve their true potential.

...all led by people who are experienced, who know the kit and the teams' collective abilities inside out, who their subordinates can trust.

I noticed somebody posted under the user name of "JHC WILTON" in the topic "LYNX HELICOPTERS GROUNDED"....well I am sure that you are reasonably senior Sir - if you read this please pass my compliments to the AVM and tell him that, as per the original post in this thread, we appreciate that there is a requirement to do desk jobs eventually; but surely he must be able to see that the way to stop the haemorraging of pilots especially in the Capt-Major bracket is to say:

"never mind about being an adjutant/SO3/SO2 etc - we'll get a tankie to do that! you just keep on honing your highly perishable skills there until we need you to go and kill someone without getting topped yourself, there's a good chap!"

Like all good ideas, its simple and I'd bet my life (well I am a Lynx pilot) it'd be effective.


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Old 5th May 2000, 01:41
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A couple of quick points -
Denied, Yes JHC is aware of the situation in the light blue beret wearing community. During a recent, high level vist I stood 3 feet away as he was informed in fairly basic english of what was wrong and right(ish) by a few near lifex SNCO's. He ignored the bouncing OC behind him and actually seemed to listen. Or was it a trick they learn at Sandhurst.
Second, why do I think I know most people posting here - is it because I do or are we all really thinking the same thing -even the Crabs (I put a capital on it!).
 

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