R.A.F. Leuchars news
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The Courier - 'People should be worried'
I've just been reading briefly through the attached article. What I can't understand is if the Army don't want to move in, for all financial and practical reasons and the R.A.F. don't want to move out for the same, just what is the political strategy afoot?
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I've just been reading briefly through the attached article. What I can't understand is if the Army don't want to move in, for all financial and practical reasons and the R.A.F. don't want to move out for the same, just what is the political strategy afoot?
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Has anyone thought of the cost of refurishing Lossie to Typhoon standard against the flying hours to transit from Leuchars into the QRA area?
or is it just politics again
or is it just politics again
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It occurs to me that Lossie will be a very busy base in the near future. Add to The Typhoons for QRA, the FGR Typhoons and eventually JSF then is the infrastructure there to handle all of this?
What "announcement last week that extra Typhoons are coming to Leuchars"?
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Perhaps they don't want to be stuck the wrong side of the border after independence?
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The army themselves do not want to move to Leuchars because, for one thing, they would need 25-30 single barrack blocks which currently do not exist and will cost more money than anyone has to hand.
''The army equally is absolutely set on a new army barracks at Kirknewton. The money to pay for that, in any case, would need to come from the sale of Craigiehall, which was the 2nd Division Army HQ, and the sale of Dreghorn and Redford barracks.
* Lossie was chosen as the future F35 base for, amongst other reasons, its remoteness and the noise level generated by the F35B. Therefore I find it somewhat ironic that Lossie is the only current fast jet base with a dedicated page in the approach charts detailing the noise abatement procedures in the visual circuit. However I believe F35 is merely a distraction here - I would bet the farm on F35 ending up at Marham to form a UK-US operating hub at Marham / Lakenheath. Therefore there would be plenty of room at Lossie for the Typhoon force.
FB, sshhh. That's a secret base for English Fifth Colunmnists to run a resistance movement.
Seriously, I don't think that's the issue. There are rumbling in the halls of the mighty to look again at stationing returning troops south of the border. Not sure that it's that serious, but I can see the politics that are at play here.
There is also a lot of posturing about where Typhoon will be based. They are all playing the long game here, so there won't be any answers soon. I am intruiged why this has suddenly appeared in a relatively minor news outlet. Quite handy.
[Edit: ES, we posted at the same time. Your analysis is absolutely right. I also think the picture goes even futher, beyond those three bases. But, as I say, it's long game, so no quick answers.]
Seriously, I don't think that's the issue. There are rumbling in the halls of the mighty to look again at stationing returning troops south of the border. Not sure that it's that serious, but I can see the politics that are at play here.
There is also a lot of posturing about where Typhoon will be based. They are all playing the long game here, so there won't be any answers soon. I am intruiged why this has suddenly appeared in a relatively minor news outlet. Quite handy.
[Edit: ES, we posted at the same time. Your analysis is absolutely right. I also think the picture goes even futher, beyond those three bases. But, as I say, it's long game, so no quick answers.]
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1 Sqn?
Ah yes...1 squadron...would have been the second oldest fixed wing squadron in continuous service? ...if only 
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Reference JCA basing - I thought one of the big drivers for the Maritime Strike capability was to train in the role, which requires a over water transit to useable airspace.
Lossie wins hands down on this count.
Lossie wins hands down on this count.
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That's a secret base for English Fifth Colunmnists to run a resistance movement.
But I imagine someone has to keep tabs on Big Eck should he get his way and be crowned the next King of Scotland.
I wonder what sort of Tomfoolery will be got up to? Replacing Haggis filling with Chickpea and Rocket Leaf puree with just a hint of Coriander and other Healthy options!That kind of thing could generate wide spread panic North of the Border!
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Perhaps they don't want to be stuck the wrong side of the border after independence?
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Perhaps they don't want to be stuck the wrong side of the border after independence?
What is this nonsense expression 'standing up'? Is it some Spam import to rank alongside that ridiculous term 'warfighter'....
Surely the news item should read "No. 1(F) Squadron to reform"?
Surely the news item should read "No. 1(F) Squadron to reform"?
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I'm with you on this Beags.
If 1 (Balloon) Sqn do reform, will that make them the "go to" outfit as the "stand out" player?
Hereward - I met the dear old chap at a sqn anniversary in 1992 after II(AC) had ben repatriated to Marham.
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If 1 (Balloon) Sqn do reform, will that make them the "go to" outfit as the "stand out" player?
Hereward - I met the dear old chap at a sqn anniversary in 1992 after II(AC) had ben repatriated to Marham.
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Reference JCA basing - I thought one of the big drivers for the Maritime Strike capability was to train in the role, which requires a over water transit to useable airspace.
When real ogsplosh is required, the North Sea is a mere 5 minutes flying time north of Marham and is occupied by the vast D323 / D513 complex, offering opportunities for affiliation training with aircraft from Coningsby & Lakenheath, not to mention Dutch/Belgian visitors. Another definite advantage from a naval viewpoint is that Marham is a also only a 20 to 25-minute transit away from the operational sea training areas in the English Channel.
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What is this nonsense expression 'standing up'? Is it some Spam import to rank alongside that ridiculous term 'warfighter'....
Surely the news item should read "No. 1(F) Squadron to reform"?
Surely the news item should read "No. 1(F) Squadron to reform"?
Yes, I realise it's a bite, but it does get a little tedious old chap.
Surely 'stand up' is an army phrase that those interested in further their careers with B&llsh1t Bingo words have adopted; a bit like using 'piece' as a superfluous, additional word or filler. Either way, I agree, it's a dreadful phrase that ranks alongside 'an RAF airbase'.
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"Standing Up"
Is it some Spam import