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No cats and flaps ...... back to F35B?

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Old 5th Nov 2012, 12:41
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letter in todays Times suggesting a mix of 30-33 F-35A's and F-18's and a cats & traps carrier would cost less and be more effective than the current plan
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Old 5th Nov 2012, 16:08
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Before everyone else points out the obvious flaw in the article, the F-35A is a landlubber plane and can't operate from a carrier, of any flavour
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Old 5th Nov 2012, 18:19
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The F-35A has never been a Joint Strike Fighter, and IMO was a bad idea from the get go. The B and C can operate from land or sea .... hence possibly joint.

But I am grinding my axe again, so I'll just sit down and stew about the powder blue goons ...
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Old 5th Nov 2012, 21:12
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LowObservable - you better than most know that the slipped IOCs have been as much to do with the US Govt deferring money and production jets as any technical difficulties that have arisen.

JSF Fan - Just shut up - you don't do yourself or your cause any favours!
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 09:12
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yes but buying the A would give us a decent -ish strike plane and the F18 would allow interoperability with the USN and the Frogs
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 12:02
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yes but buying the A would give us a decent -ish strike plane and the F18 would allow interoperability with the USN and the Frogs
Whose AAR asset shall we use for the projected strike mission?
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re: Whose AAR asset shall we use for the projected strike mission?

The F/A18E/F does quite well in the tactical refueling role. In the "5-wet" configuration it can pass quite a bit of fuel, keep up with the stirke package and is still fully carrier capable. The F-35 will likely have a buddy capabiltiy down the road.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 14:37
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Lj101s point, I think, is that the 35 A is useless to us in the UK as we have no organic capability for its AAR
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And hence, why the C and Super Bug would work as a fit, but not the A.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 19:15
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Mending an F35: Ctrl+Alt+Delete

USAF maintainers are apparently happy with F35 at this early stage, according to a Flightglobal item:

US Air Force praises early performance of Lockheed Martin F-35

I was especially taken with one remark on fixing the jet:

"...occasionally, we will have some issues with it on the ground," he says. However, this is usually easily fixed by shutting the aircraft down and then restarting it..."

Works for me each time my laptop falls over too. Those $trillions future operating costs are going to come tumbling down.

LF
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 20:02
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Standard Windows reboot procedure.

However, all they need to do is switch to Linux with a Windows emulator and all will be well.

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First U.K. pilots begin training to fly F-35

Progress: First UK pilots begin training to fly F-35

Originally Posted by NWF Daily News 23 Nov 2012

Lt Cdr Ian Tidball of the Royal Navy discusses the F-35 program
during a recent interview at Eglin Air Force Base


EGLIN AFB — Last week, the first two United Kingdom pilots started training to fly the F-35.

They join an elite rank. Only 30 pilots in the world have been or are in the process of training to fly the new stealth fighter jet, which is still in testing phases.

“It’s an amazing, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,” said Royal Air Force squadron leader Franki Buchler, one of the two pilots. “I feel very privileged and lucky. I hope I do the aircraft and the Air Force justice.”

Buchler and fellow pilot, Royal Navy Lt. Cdr. Ian Tidball, have joined the U.S. Marines Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501, which is conducting initial training and instruction on the F-35B at Eglin Air Force Base...

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Old 29th Nov 2012, 11:05
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HMG hasn't compleletly closed the door on an eventual F35A purchase, but the official position is that any consideration of it will be in the context of Typhoon OSD. In the meantime the assumption seems to be that 5 Typhoon sqns and a slack handful (2? 3?) of F35B sqns will suffice when Tornado goes - unless the rumours of 1 or 2 extra Typhoon sqns (Tranche 1s retained) come to pass...
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 11:38
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Reference probe and drogue and F-35A

A: O’Bryan: “We anticipated a number of the operators would want probe-and-drogue refueling in the F-35A and we kept that space empty on the F-35A to accommodate probe and drogue refueling. We‘ve done a number of studies – funded studies, not projects – funded studies to evaluate that, paid for by the countries who want that to happen. It’s a relatively easy … doable change.”
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/06/19/lo...a-on-the-f-35/
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This article appeared in the New York Times today 29 November. A clue as to what is to come?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/29/us...k.html?hp&_r=0
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 14:12
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Nice to see The Gray Lady hitching up her bloomers and making a last-moment leap aboard the rapidly accelerating clue-train...
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 15:08
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Complete with anti-F35 rent-a-quote from Winslow Wheeler. Quelle surprise.
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 08:28
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Sukhoi PAK-FA spin recovery footage
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 09:59
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We're Doomed
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 15:42
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Do we think it was spinning or just yawing? There was no roll component and IIRC to get into a flat spin you have to fly through someone's 'jetwash', be in asymmetric blower and be 'heading out to sea'.

It's spin recovery seemed to be 'stop yawing'. Must keep the FRCs simple.

It looked to me to be a high alpha yaw authority demonstration.
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