RAF to get additional C-17
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From: Former Home of the Hercules, Wilts
The latest addition is great news. However it would have been ratrher more usefull when we were supporting both TELIC and HERRICK and airlift was at a premium. Perhaps we will begin to see less AN-124s in Oxforshire and then we could buy number 9 & 10.
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From: UK
Boeing (and BAE as a sub? They seem to have some play in this) seems to be building the aircraft with a modular methodology, so that you could customize the design to meet UK-unique requirements.
(No, I don't work for, and don't own stock in, Boeing.)
(No, I don't work for, and don't own stock in, Boeing.)
That didn't work out too well for neither party although Boeing managed to walk away with what is essentially their Mission System funded by the UK taxpayer
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From: Home alone
Lonewolf,
I think you're point is pretty logical, it'll be interesting to see what SDSR 2015 throws up, with regard to MPA; I would assume that it would most likely be P-8s though...domestic development is right out!
I think you're point is pretty logical, it'll be interesting to see what SDSR 2015 throws up, with regard to MPA; I would assume that it would most likely be P-8s though...domestic development is right out!

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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Given the massive increase in strategic air transport capability which C-17 and Voyager will shortly be providing and its limited capability (technical, not professional) in the AAR role, does this announcement not sound the death knell for the TriStar? Particularly given that VC10 / VC10K availability is remarkably good at present, given the age of the aircraft.


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From: Texas
Which aircraft are you referring to, QTRZulu?
UK flies the Apache. (Flew the Phantom for a while as well)
Did something go haywire with Apache?
UK flew Seakings. (That seems to have begun as Sikorsky S-61, did it not?)
We seem to have shared in the Harrier experience, but I don't recall that being a Boeing project, but McDonald Douglass. (Do I recall incorrectly?)
Can you shed some light?
UK flies the Apache. (Flew the Phantom for a while as well)
Did something go haywire with Apache?
UK flew Seakings. (That seems to have begun as Sikorsky S-61, did it not?)
We seem to have shared in the Harrier experience, but I don't recall that being a Boeing project, but McDonald Douglass. (Do I recall incorrectly?)
Can you shed some light?

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From: Sutton
Why is the UK C17 cost $16 millon more than the ozzy one?
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The UK is to receive another Boeing C-17 strategic transport, with the acquisition to boost the Royal Air Force's fleet of the type to eight aircraft.
Announced by prime minister David Cameron on 8 February, the £200 million ($316 million) purchase represents the potentially final addition to the UK's C-17 fleet, which plays a vital role in sustaining its "airbridge" with Afghanistan. Seven are flown by the service's 99 Sqn from its air transport super base at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire.
http://www.flightglobal.c...h-c-17-transport-367960/
The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency has notified congress of the possible sale of a sixth Boeing C-17 Globemaster III aircraft to Australia for $300 million.
Canberra has requested the aircraft, up to four Pratt & Whitney F117-PW-100 engines and a Northrop Grumman An/AAQ-24V (13) large aircraft infrared counter-measures (LAIRCM) system, the DSCA said. In addition, the deal will include spare parts, training, documentation and test equipment.
http://www.flightglobal.c...quire-sixth-c-17-365095/
are we getting ripped off ?
The UK is to receive another Boeing C-17 strategic transport, with the acquisition to boost the Royal Air Force's fleet of the type to eight aircraft.
Announced by prime minister David Cameron on 8 February, the £200 million ($316 million) purchase represents the potentially final addition to the UK's C-17 fleet, which plays a vital role in sustaining its "airbridge" with Afghanistan. Seven are flown by the service's 99 Sqn from its air transport super base at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire.
http://www.flightglobal.c...h-c-17-transport-367960/
The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency has notified congress of the possible sale of a sixth Boeing C-17 Globemaster III aircraft to Australia for $300 million.
Canberra has requested the aircraft, up to four Pratt & Whitney F117-PW-100 engines and a Northrop Grumman An/AAQ-24V (13) large aircraft infrared counter-measures (LAIRCM) system, the DSCA said. In addition, the deal will include spare parts, training, documentation and test equipment.
http://www.flightglobal.c...quire-sixth-c-17-365095/
are we getting ripped off ?

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From: so far south of blighty its untrue!!!!!
36 (Maintenance) Sqn.....
Don't really matter how many C-17's the RAAF have, maintenance run the Sqn and will always ensure a full fleet will never be possible, whilst ensuring all tasking revolves around maintenance crew duty!!! 

oh how the tail wags the RAAF dog.....woof....woof


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From: England
The C-17 won against the AN-124 back at the start, did it not? What would have happened if the RAF went down the other route for Strategic Airlift requirements? Is the 124 a better way to spend the funds?
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From: Dreamland
As an ex RAF techie I'm sure you are aware that the RAF does not have ground crew duty. Instead we have accidents, near misses and boards of inquiry.
And airfields full of unserviceable aircraft
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