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Old 11th Jan 2012, 16:12
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C-117

Apologies if it's in the wrong bit but.........
I was driving up the A30 this lunchtime and as I passed Exeter aerodrome there was a C-117 about to land. Are these regular visiters there or was this something else. I just wondered that's all.
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C-117's are darn rare anymore.....

R4D





Of course....more commonly seen these days....the C-17.

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Cargo conversion of one of these?

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T'was RAF Globemaster ZZ171, Ascot 814.
Made 4 (I think) training approach and go-arounds.
Looked nice turning over my house!
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or an RCAF CC-117
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This is a Globemaster.......the jet namesake is the Globemaster II.








Cockpit of the Aerial Demonstration aircraft used by MATS in those days.


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Sorry to pick peanuts out of poo, but the Jet is the Globemaster III, the aircraft in your pictures is the Globemaster II.

The original Globemaster is the Douglas C-74.
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Oh dear sasless extra recce lessons for you then.
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Is the PIC the first one who manages to roll a double six?
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Slipper wins a Kewpee Doll....the C-74 was the Globemaster and the other two are namesakes.....although the II is a close sibling.
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The Globemaster II was the C-124... here is a C-74 Globemaster:

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Interesting feature is the two independent cockpits for the Pilots...later changed to a conventional cockpit setup.

Can you imagine an intercom failure....however would they have coped without being able to talk to one another?
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Originally Posted by SASless
Interesting feature is the two independent cockpits for the Pilots...later changed to a conventional cockpit setup.

Can you imagine an intercom failure....however would they have coped without being able to talk to one another?
After "gear up !" is there anything left to say ?
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Gear Down.
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There were not two independent cockpits, just two independent canopies. Beneath the canopies was a single compartment. So an intercom failure should not have been a problem.

See: Views of USAF C-74 aircraft. Instrument panel, cockpit, maintenance access, takeoff, landing, flying on only two engines
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Dusting of the anorak...

Isn't the picture in SAless first post a C47?
The C117 had square cut wingtips and a different tail design, if memory serves....
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Thankyou. I'll just have to say a dirty great grey thing next time.
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Didn't the C-74 feature as a Chinese government plane in the original version of The Italian Job ?
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There was one in the "Italian Job".

The US Navy used the R4D designation for what the Air Force called the C-47, there were some Square tails with up rated engines known as R4D-8's.

Everything one wanted to know about R4D's....and was afraid to ask!

Douglas R4D Gooneybird, by Jack McKillop


R4D

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Didn't the C-74 feature as a Chinese government plane in the original version of The Italian Job ?
Douglas C-74 Globemaster. Built in 1945 it was one of only 16, all remaining orders being cancelled on VJ day. It originally carried USAF serial number 42-65409, changed to N3181G in 1956.

It was retired from service in 1956 and, after reconditioning at Oakland, registered by Aeronaves de Panama as HP-379 (probably a CIA-backed airlne).

By 1963 it, and two other civil Globemaster-Is ,were flying cargo in Europe for Air Systems. The company went out of business after one of the Globemaster Is crashed at Marseilles in October 1963 and HP-379 was abandoned in Milan. By 1969 it had been flown to the Turin Airport and the film company painted it in the colors of the fictitious Communist Chinese Civil Aviation Airlines Corporation for The Italian Job.

It caught fire while on public display Jun 11, 1970 and again on Sep 24, 1970, this time killing two salvage workers, at which time it was scrapped.
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